Skull n 'Bones/CIA/Air America/Hells Angels

[thunkerdrone]

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Edited November 2, 2007 by thunkerdrone

[goofball_mcgee]

Wow dude.... this thread is about nothing but mis information and distortion of facts. I can't believe its been alive this long. I think the reason it has so many views is because people want to see what stupid crack pot idea you come up with next.

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

Wow dude.... this thread is about nothing but mis information and distortion of facts. I can't believe its been alive this long. I think the reason it has so many views is because people want to see what stupid crack pot idea you come up with next.

Yes. You are totally correct.

Edited November 1, 2007 by Eric Raven The Skeptic

[jaylemurph]

I'll just throw out again that thunker needs a blog and not his own personal thread.

--Jaylemurph

[The Skeptic Eric Raven]

[Starscream]

Huli folklore tells stories of fighting cannibalistic giants:

The indigenous people of New Guinea are characteristically short in stature by western standards,

so foreign cannibals large in stature by our standards, could appear to them as giants.

a new video clip of the progress made so far....cheers

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0gTRpwx93o

[thunkerdrone]

article: Were the Egyptians cannibals?

<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...9609C94669ED7CF" target="_blank">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html...9609C94669ED7CF</a>

The Rosicrucian Egyptian Museum in San Jose, California:

[jaylemurph]

What, exactly, does a semi-mythical, non-corporeal organization from 17th Century Germany have to do with the ancient Egyptians?

And what lead you to a 110 year old Times article?

--Jaylemurph

[goofball_mcgee]

What, exactly, does a semi-mythical, non-corporeal organization from 17th Century Germany have to do with the ancient Egyptians?

And what lead you to a 110 year old Times article?

--Jaylemurph

You don't see the connection!!! Its so obvious!!! Lets start from the beginning: Jew's started it, when the Egyptians made them slaves, give it a couple thousand years and then the corporation in Germany was owned by the Jews, eventually they got sick of themselves and caused the Holocaust, which never happened. So that inspired the Hell's Angels to take over the government, unfortunately the Mormons, Reptile people, and the Illluminati had already done that. Then Bush caused 9/11 because the Skull and Bones club he and all other elite belong to told him too. So now go back 100 years to the Times article, because where else are you supposed to go? Did I miss anything? I don't know maybe I'll just keep this thread going to be sure. And if you don't understand it, well you must be stupid because its all here in this thread and makes perfect sense. Or just ask David Icke, he seems on the ball.

[+Link of Hyrule]

You know, I've just read through the last few pages of this thread. I can't say I know much more about what it's about than anyone else. However, there are enough interesting articles so far to leave this thread open (for now). So.....

thunkerdrone - when you post articles in the future, please provide some of your own commentary on the matter. Add in a paragraph or two about what you think was important in that. What part of the video/article was particularly informative, and how it supports your theory about this whole Drug-ring in government, because I can't really piece together everything you mean just with the articles on their own. Please do this, because if things stay as they are, I'm going to have to close this thread.

For everyone else - please do not continue to derail this thread with off-topic remarks and general barbs against thunkerdrone. If you feel there is a problem with the thread (or posts within the thread), use the Report function - this will alert the moderators and we can deal with the issue without it degenerating into this.

Thank you, back to the thread.

~ Paranoid Android

Edited November 3, 2007 by Paranoid Android

[thunkerdrone]

You know, I've just read through the last few pages of this thread. I can't say I know much more about what it's about than anyone else. However, there are enough interesting articles so far to leave this thread open (for now). So.....

thunkerdrone - when you post articles in the future, please provide some of your own commentary on the matter. Add in a paragraph or two about what you think was important in that. What part of the video/article was particularly informative, and how it supports your theory about this whole Drug-ring in government, because I can't really piece together everything you mean just with the articles on their own. Please do this, because if things stay as they are, I'm going to have to close this thread.

For everyone else - please do not continue to derail this thread with off-topic remarks and general barbs against thunkerdrone. If you feel there is a problem with the thread (or posts within the thread), use the Report function - this will alert the moderators and we can deal with the issue without it degenerating into this.

Thank you, back to the thread.

~ Paranoid Android

One of the reasons that I am reluctant to 'editorialize' is to avoid being taken out of context or being drawn into long time-consuming arguments about my opinion on this information. There are people who LIVE to draw a thread into a mess of arguing , because I believe their true purpose is to make the sharing of information on certain topics as unpleasant and confusing as possible.

I believe that I have skillfully avoided this trap , and my having succeeded is proven in the number of people who are apparently following this thread. In my opinion, if one were to take the time to read the entire thread from end to end and fully absorb the trains of thought presented, the relevance of the posted information would be self-evident to most who do so.

I provide pictures and images wherever possible to make the associations and authenticity even more self-evident.

For those who will not , or cannot , grasp the meaning of my posts and of this thread : they are welcome to stop reading it.

My belief is that most people naturally fall into one of the two categories.

1. The people who absorb and appreciate and follow the thread (in large numbers, btw)

2. The people who cannot be bothered to read the entire thing or absorb it, and decide to ignore it.

3. ?????????

This third category of angry people who cannot stop reading the thread, and appear frustrated that I will not be drawn into antagonistic arguments baffles me. I would put them into the category of censors. It is possible that their purpose is to make the thread

unpalatable , out of fear of the sensitive nature of the subject matter gaining wide exposure. Their whole technique involves making the thread (whichever one they may object to) become something else entirely,usually a debate about who hates the other more , which one is 'stupid' etc. Childish nonsense, designed to destroy the true flow of information.

I fail to see why you would see a need to 'close' a thread that is drawing hundreds , if not thousands of readers , simply on the basis that a couple of people

are angry that I won't be drawn into arguments about it. They have been welcome to post their opinions on this information, but have chosen instead

to feign confusion and try to create a hostile exchange, which I refuse to participate in.

Edited November 3, 2007 by thunkerdrone

[jaylemurph]

I'll repeat my question, then.

What connection is there between the Rosicrucians and the ancient Egyptians?

Nowhere in the extant writings of the actual fraternity do they mention Egypt (though they go at lengths to suggest the their founder Christian Rosenkreutz went to several other Middle Eastern countries to learn old knowledges), or the implied connection of cannibalism.

Needless to say, the ancient Egyptians (as far as I know) don't mention the Rosicrucians, so the connection eludes me.

--Jaylemurph

[xCrimsonx]

To be honest, I didn't have a clue as to who or what this SKULL AND BONES was exactly, until I seen a program about it (and few of the others) on the HISTORY channel just here recently.

It certainly caught my attention anyway-

I saw Hells Angels and straight away though of the biker gangs.

After reading this post it makes ya realize, some things are lot bigger than you persieve.

Ya'll got "Bigguns" for you are able to speak freely.

Well done!!!!!

[Starscream]

It is known that every form of occultism was cultivated among the Egyptian priesthood, that magic, magnetism, astrology, and the secrets of chemistry found their votaries in the temples. Since Moses was said to be learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians, which wisdom, as we know, included magic, there is no inherent improbability in the kabbalistic tradition according to which Moses, with whom the Rosicrucians claim a certain connection, communicated his knowledge to certain chosen members of his nation. Perhaps we ought to consider the Essenes and the Therapeutae of the earliest Christian times, as bearers of the Mosaic [Page 9] tradition, while the depositaries of the Egyptian temple secrets must be looked for in the Neo-Platonists, especially Jamblichus

http://www.theosophical.ca/TheRosicruciansAK.html

[thunkerdrone]

I'll repeat my question, then.

What connection is there between the Rosicrucians and the ancient Egyptians?

I'm working on it. These things take time, and when discussing things ancient, my guess is that one will have to trace the roots of Rosicrucianism

quite a bit farther back to find its connection to the mystery schools and ancient rituals.

Nowhere in the extant writings of the actual fraternity do they mention Egypt (though they go at lengths to suggest the their founder Christian Rosenkreutz went to several other Middle Eastern countries to learn old knowledges), or the implied connection of cannibalism.

Several sources indicate that 'Christian Rosenkreutz' was actually Francis Bacon, writing under a pseudonym deliberately evocative (Red Cross) of the Knights Templar.

Many believe that the Rosicrucians are a continuation/extension of the Knights Templar, who themselves were practitioners of sacred geometry dating back to Egypt:

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/early_rc.html

http://heritage.scotsman.com/timelines.cfm...amp;id=41752005

Whilst in Jerusalem, in addition to fighting and protecting pilgrims, the knights also excavated under the Temple of Solomon. In the 19th century the Palestine Exploration Fund re-excavated these tunnels and found various Templar items.

Evidence of digging has led to many theories of what they found - the most populist version being that they located the Ark of the Covenant. Champions of this theory point to the pillar at the Templar Cathedral at Chartres, which depicts the Ark in transport. Less prosaic interpretations suggest they found scriptural scrolls, treatises on sacred geometry and details of ancient Judaic-Egyptian wisdom.

http://students.washington.edu/aphia/africanhistory.htm

During the Middle Ages there arose a Christian order of warrior monks known as the Knights Templar. Much has been written of the Templars: their involvement in the Crusades, their supposed overwhelming power (real or imaginary, benevolent or malevolent), accusations of occultism and of the mystery of their disappearance. Whatever the actual truth concerning the Templars, a great deal of Enlightenment masons in Europe traced descent, either directly or indirectly, to the Knights Templar. Why? Well a great deal of it may have to do with geometry, or more aptly put, "sacred geometry." This is the notion that certain geometric properties hold sacred or divine qualities. Thus buildings may be built to a certain geometric precision, to face certain directions, etc. The Knights Templar were believed to be famous for this. Many cathedrals in Europe bearing such sacred geometry have been attributed to them. Whether the Templars actually built them is unknown and not the focus of this discussion; what is important is that Enlightenment masons of Europe believed so. Pictured above is a seal of the legendary and mysterious Knights Templar. But why would these Enlightenment figures connect the Templars with Egypt? That takes us even back before the Templars existed: to tales of Hebrew kings, temples and Phoenician architects.

King Solomon's Temple is probably one of the most important symbols in freemasonry. One of the reasons for its importance is the reputed elements of sacred geometry, which permeated the temple. The geometric precision, which allowed the temple to permit only certain amounts of light in at certain times of the day, earned it a famed reputation. Though the existence of such a temple is debatable, once again it is more so the belief in its existence and power that concerns this discussion. It was believed by many that the Knights Templar were trying to emulate this very type of sacred geometry in the Christian structures reputedly (through legend) built by them. But many Enlightenment freemasons may have known that the Hebrew temple of King Solomon was not built by Hebrews according to the folklore. In fact it was attributed to none other than Phoenicians. And with the Phoenicians, we get a little closer to the puzzle. The Phoenician builder reputed to be in charge of the building of King Solomon's Temple is Hiram Abiff. Hiram Abiff's attention to sacred geometry, if he was even a real figure, would have come about as a result of Phoenician and not Hebrew deities and beliefs. And here is where we have an interesting link, for many a Phoenician deity can be traced back to Egypt. Following the expulsion of the Asiatic Hyksos invaders, Egypt becomes for the first time a type of Empire. And she conquers in the direction of the origin of her one-time invaders, towards Western Asia and Phoenicia. There are reports of Egyptian rulers capturing and bringing back Phoenician princes to indoctrinate them in Egyptian beliefs so as to make vassals of their kingdoms. The Phoenicians become very acquainted with a host of Egyptian gods who either blend in or at times even supplant their own. Pictured here is the Phoenician deity Baal. His demeanor and headdress are specifically Egyptian. Thus Hiram Abiff's deities and particular ceremonial rituals to sacred geometry and architecture would not have been Hebrew or truly Phoenician, but rather of Egyptian origin. Once again, Solomon's Temple and Hiram Abiff's existence cannot be proven historically. But folklore and mythos may tell us a great deal about certain other truths, particularly the linking of sacred geometry with Egypt

http://www.geocities.com/newworldorder_the...crucianism.html

[jaylemurph]

I'm working on it. These things take time, and when discussing things ancient, my guess is that one will have to trace the roots of Rosicrucianism

quite a bit farther back to find its connection to the mystery schools and ancient rituals.

There are conenctions, but they're limited. Even though the RC brothers were explicitly christian -- their motto was Iesus mihi omnia -- but they were also deeply Hermetic.

The only problem with that is that Hermes Trismegestus' writings aren't Ancient Egyptian. They're a combination of texts from the Hellenic period to the Renaissance, and they've been known as being that recent since Causabon, who was writing before the RC brothers formed.

Several sources indicate that 'Christian Rosenkreutz' was actually Francis Bacon, writing under a pseudonym deliberately evocative (Red Cross) of the Knights Templar.

This is almost certainly false. First of all, the original writing of the RC brothers are usually attributed to Johann Vanlentin Andreae, a Lutheran pastor. And although the work of John Dee was more important, Bacon was influential. However, because the original RC brothers books were written in and published in Germany, and Bacon never went to Germany and he probably didn't speak German, Bacons's authorship is unlikely.

Many believe that the Rosicrucians are a continuation/extension of the Knights Templar, who themselves were practitioners of sacred geometry dating back to Egypt:

It may be popular, but there's not much reason to think so. About the best claim anybody's made is the fact they use a red cross in their symbology... But then again, the cross of St George (a red cross on a white field) was also used by several countries (England being the most prominent) and the Lutherans. The real Rosicrucians had strong ties to the English court and German protestantism, and never once mention the Templars.

Again, thunker, if you're going to go throwing historic names with real, studied history and impact, I can only implore you to research that history instead of spreading around rumours and deliberate lies posted on the internet. I mean, the Templars and the Rosicrucians had their moments and ended. As romantic as it would be for them to survive in secret, they didn't.

When you read things by groups like the Freemasons or other silly organizations founded or (as they usually claim, "re-founded" or "re-structured") in the last century and a half, what you're reading is their deliberately mystified, deliberately falsified history to make it seem like that they have a esoteric provenance.

You'll notice, thunker, that I tend to keep my comments about the historical aspects of this thread, because I can counter some of the more outlandish claims that you make about the past.

--Jaylemurph

[thunkerdrone]

Further evidence of how closely the whole Harley Davidson/ Hells Angels biker scene is linked to the military.

check out the Harley Davidson Military Sales Program (discount deliveries of Harley Davidson motorcycles for overseas armed services personnel)

Featured in this website is the Special Military Pricing for Harley Davidson Military Sales Program

the AAFES/NEXCOM program was authorized by the U.S. Congress in the mid-1960's. They make sure you are able to purchase a Harley Davidson , wherever you are stationed overseas, at a fair price, with convenience, choice, and exceptional service.

<a href="http://www.paulsmilitarysales.com/harleyda...itarysales1.htm" target="_blank">http://www.paulsmilitarysales.com/harleyda...itarysales1.htm</a>

Harley Davidson got its biggest growth as a company with military war contracts.

Edited November 12, 2007 by thunkerdrone

[thunkerdrone]

watch this Youtube video on Illuminati symbolism in Kubrick's film Eyes Wide Shut (Kubrick died mysteriously four days after presenting the first cut of the

film to Warner Bros.)

check out this evidence of ritual abuse , namely the ritual abuse and murder case of

catholic clergyman Gerald Robinson:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murd...rgy2/index.html

[War Eagle]

<a href="http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&a...p;z=10&om=1" target="_blank">http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&a...p;z=10&om=1</a>

Sturgis, South Dakota Motorcycle Rally (annually attracts over 500,000 bikers to Rapid City area the first week of August)

500,000 Whoa...now thats one Hell of a gathering!

Edited November 16, 2007 by REBEL

[thunkerdrone]

some startling information on the occult, Mick Jagger etc. here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqd4BPfM3Qc

[Godofcats]

i heard something about the CIA being responsible for spreading herion into black nieghborhoods. i seen this thing on tv about it. this former CIA agent said he knew for a fact that the CIA was responsible for buying herion from south american and mexican drug lords and putting them in black communities. with the way america treats minorities i can almost believe it.

[thunkerdrone]

Interesting too, Look up enough INFORMATION ON ERIC HARRIS (columbine massacre) and you will notice the comparison's between Harris's Father, and BTK. Harris father was also involved in the same order, same programs, around the same time period. Immediately after the massacre the couple (Eric's parents) conveniently left country without answering to authority's.

Just thought i'd put in my two cents....

that is very interesting, can you provide us a link for some of that information? (especially the comparisons to BTK)

[thunkerdrone]

CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE

This Florida based Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crash landed on September 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula it had a cargo of several tons of Cocaine on board now documents have turned up on both sides of the Atlantic that link this Cocaine Smuggling Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA that crashed in Mexico to the CIA who used it on at least 3 rendition flights from Europe and the USA to Guantanamo's infamous torture chambers between 2003 to 2005.

video:

complete story and more videos:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/.../608/933/420107

Edited December 14, 2007 by thunkerdrone

[sickpuppy]

i read 99% of everything here.. good info and bound to rattle a few cages.. hopefully..

JayleMurph..

i ask you please to clarify your stance on the matter if you would be so kind..

how much does the molochian hand pay you to troll here, and do they pay in cash or gold bullion?

just messin' with ya mate, but i AM wondering why you (who seems to be a debunker?) would even go so far as picking up the trail of "Skull n Bones/CIA/Air America/Hells Angels" and taking it to secret society land (rosicrucians >> egyptology) ??

[jaylemurph]

i read 99% of everything here.. good info and bound to rattle a few cages.. hopefully..

JayleMurph..

i ask you please to clarify your stance on the matter if you would be so kind..

how much does the molochian hand pay you to troll here, and do they pay in cash or gold bullion?

just messin' with ya mate, but i AM wondering why you (who seems to be a debunker?) would even go so far as picking up the trail of "Skull n Bones/CIA/Air America/Hells Angels" and taking it to secret society land (rosicrucians >> egyptology) ??

I didn't. Thunker is a rampant cut-and-paster, and at some point he posted something outlandish that linked them. There is no link between the real Rosicrucians and Egypt. But Thunker isn't actually interested in the real Rosicrucians, so it's moot.

--Jaylemurph