Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US

[Aztec Warrior]

Israel Security Official: Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US

Added: Feb 28th, 2007 8:41 AM

Iran Plans To Nuke Europe, US - Sanctions Urged

By Joel Leyden

Israel News Agency

Jerusalem ----- February 28, 2007 .... An Israel security official told the Israel News Agency that the recent launch of a missile from Iran into space illustrated a direct threat to both Europe's and US national security.

On February 25, Iran launched a missile reaching space. "Iran has successfully launched its first space missile made by Iranian scientists," the head of Iran's aerospace research center, Mohsen Bahrami, was quoted as saying. On Saturday, Iran Defense Minister Mostafa Mohammad Najjar said Iran was planning to build a satellite and launcher.

"Iran has no plans to land a man on the moon," Col. Adam an Israeli security source told the INA. "The same technology is used to build intercontinental ballistic missiles. This Iran space launch is not a threat to Israel. The Iranians need not reach a space orbit to attack Israel, but such a high orbit would be needed to deliver a nuclear payload into Europe or the US."

Iran launched its first satellite, Sina-1, into orbit from a Russian rocket in 2005 and has said it planned to modify its Shahab-3 missile, which Iran says has a range of about 2,000 km (1,250 miles), to launch satellites. Bahrami said the missile was built by his center in cooperation of the Defense and Science Ministries. He gave no further details. Despite announcing what would be a major advance in Iran's missile technology, the news was mentioned only once by the main state TV news channel and was not carried by other Iranian official media.

"Take a look at the news media, you don't see a word about this launch today," said Adam. "Western governments were not prepared for Iran to have a nuclear delivery system up and running. Intel is hard to come by regarding Iran. It is very difficult to have real time Intel coming from Iran as it is difficult for operatives to penetrate Iranian society. Most of our Intel comes from external sources, and these sources are reactive, passive, not proactive."

"If we don't see severe economic sanctions coming from Europe in the next few weeks, we will witness a catastrophe," said a source at the Israel Ministry for Foreign Affairs. The source would not give his name because he would lose his position, but the matter of urgency had him staring at this writer praying to get the message out.

"Iran is no different than Nazi Germany", the MFA source said. "They too built up an army, resources and created the V-2." The V-2 was the first man-made object launched into space, during test flights that reached an altitude of 189 km (117 miles) in 1944. "While Germany was putting the finishing touches to the V-2 which was eventually used against Britain, the world stood by wanting to talk. Now we have Iran repeating history, declaring to "wipe Israel off the map" while planting bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan, one which nearly killed US Vice President Cherney during his visit there a few days ago."

"We have two options. The West can attack Iran which would provoke both Iran and Syria to respond with chemical weapons or we can place immediate and severe sanctions on Iran, thereby reducing their ability to create and use atomic weapons against the West. One should understand Iranian fundamental mentality. These people are not threatening the "infidels" of the West, they are promising to attack as soon as they have both the delivery and nuclear weapons capability."

Security analysts in Europe state that two overriding EU security interests are at stake: avoiding a war with Iran and preventing Iran from becoming a nuclear power. These two apparently contradictory interests can be reconciled and translated into a common strategy by adopting a three-pronged approach based on efficient isolation, effective containment, and direct negotiations.

The U.N. Security Council has recently slapped sanctions on Iran that bar the transfer of technology and know-how to Iran's nuclear and missile programs, a move that was pushed for by the West because of fears that Iran is seeking to build atomic bombs. Tehran says its nuclear program is purely civilian and aims to generate electricity. The Iran defense minister was quoted by a newspaper as saying: "Building a satellite and satellite launcher, as well as (previously) launching the first Iranian satellite called Sina with Russian cooperation, and becoming a member of the space club, are part of the Defense Ministry's plans."

It is up to Europe to prevent the two worst developments in Iran - war and nuclear armament - by acting jointly and with determination. Vital European and transatlantic interests are at stake. It is thus Europe's responsibility - and especially Germany's, as the current EU president - to act now.

Iran said yesterday it would never suspend uranium enrichment as demanded by the West, a day after world powers agreed to work on a new UN resolution to pressure Tehran to back down over its nuclear program. Officials from the five permanent UN Security Council members - the United States, France, Russia, China and Britain - plus Germany, who met in London on Monday, also said they were committed to a negotiated resolution to the standoff. The United States, which says "all options" are on the table while insisting it wants a peaceful solution, has ratcheted up pressure by sending a second aircraft carrier to the Gulf.

"Suspending uranium enrichment is an illegal and illegitimate demand ... and it will never happen," Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki was quoted by the official IRNA news agency as saying. Another agency said he backed atomic talks but without preconditions. Iran's open refusal to halt enrichment, a process it insists it only wants to make fuel for nuclear power plants, is echoed by some Iranian officials in private, suggesting the public pronouncements are more than just rhetoric. US State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said after the London meeting world powers would hold phone talks on Thursday to discuss elements of a new resolution.

Clearing its stand on the Iran nuclear standoff, China has said that it did not favor the use of sanctions on Iran. Beijing has called for the peaceful resolution of the Iranian nuclear issue through diplomatic means. "Sanctions are not the purpose," Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman, Qin Gang said. "Any move of the Security Council should help resolving the issue through peaceful and appropriate means," he said adding hat Beijing's stand on the issue is consistent. "We advocate a peaceful solution through diplomatic negotiation," he added.

China has significant business ties and energy interests in Iran.

"Iran which denies that a European Holocaust ever took place, is now planning to create a second Holocaust in Europe and in the US," said the Israel MFA source. "Europe will be first to feel this nuclear suicide bomb, as London, Moscow, Madrid, Rome and Paris are now in range of Iranian missiles. We no longer have the luxury of time to implement sanctions. This is not a movie. This is not the "24" TV series about nuclear terrorism. This is real. Sanctions worked against North Korea, they can and will work against Iran."

"Iran has over 20 intermediate range missiles that can reach continental Europe," stated Riki Ellison, President of the Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance. "These 20 BM-25 missiles were purchased from North Korea in 2005 and are a variant of the Soviet SS-N-6 (R-27) submarine-launched ballistic missile. With a range beyond 3,000 kilometers, these missiles pose a direct threat to central Europe." Last week Iran launched a sub-orbit missile that traveled 94 miles into space and declared their intent to launch satellites in the near future. On last week's launch of a sub-orbital missile by Iran, Ellison noted that "Having orbital satellite launch capability, Iran would have access to deliver payloads to anyplace on earth, as was first powerfully demonstrated 50 years ago by the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik in 1957."

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[Princess Serenity]

Great. Something new to worry about. Iran's pushing our buttons here. Seriously. I don't need this stress!

[Unlimited]

that's some heavy pro-israel propoganda your toting there...fear is your vehicle...the zionists are good at spreading fear....

[SnakeProphet]

How exactly is this a plan to nuke Europe?

"Iran is no different than Nazi Germany", the MFA source said. "They too built up an army, resources and created the V-2." The V-2 was the first man-made object launched into space, during test flights that reached an altitude of 189 km (117 miles) in 1944. "While Germany was putting the finishing touches to the V-2 which was eventually used against Britain, the world stood by wanting to talk. Now we have Iran repeating history, declaring to "wipe Israel off the map" while planting bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan, one which nearly killed US Vice President Cherney during his visit there a few days ago."

Speculation aside, there are more countries than Iran, who fit this profile. Why aren't you comparing them to nazi germany? Are they going to nuke us too?

[coughymachine]

This speculation is almost as disturbing as the fact that both the US and Israel are plotting to mini-nuke Iran.

[Princess Serenity]

that's some heavy pro-israel propoganda your toting there...fear is your vehicle...the zionists are good at spreading fear....

I know. But even it's false, I still have to worry.

How exactly is this a plan to nuke Europe?

Yeah. Especially when he's in 'denial' about making any.

[Aztec Warrior]

that's some heavy pro-israel propoganda your toting there...fear is your vehicle...the zionists are good at spreading fear....

I was tired of reading all that Iranian propaganda and felt some balance was called for. Luckily, Mugen has me on "ignore" otherwise he would be going ballistic.

But seriously, the Iranian technology is in place and this scenario is not far fetched or 10 years away.

This speculation is almost as disturbing as the fact that both the US and Israel are plotting to mini-nuke Iran.

Yes it is disturbing.

[Unlimited]

How exactly is this a plan to nuke Europe?

Speculation aside, there are more countries than Iran, who fit this profile. Why aren't you comparing them to nazi germany? Are they going to nuke us too?

pakistan for one, has a huge anti-american population and nuclear weapons...but they have a president who took over in a coup; and he acts as an allie to further his military agenda against India...This is pure zionist propoganda; for the west to get on board in there quest to destroy Iran....

[Aztec Warrior]

pakistan for one, has a huge anti-american population and nuclear weapons...but they have a president who took over in a coup; and he acts as an allie to further his military agenda against India...This is pure zionist propoganda; for the west to get on board in there quest to destroy Iran....

It's not all propaganda. The rocket test just happened a few days ago. Perhaps you don't feel there is a clear intent by Iran, nonetheless there is a threat....no doubt about it.

If the Israelis feel there is an imminent threat.....what do you think they will do about it?

Edited March 1, 2007 by Aztec Warrior

[coughymachine]

Yes it is disturbing.

Indeed, a posturing, non-nuclear Iran is preferrable to a posturing, nuclear US/Israeli pact with a history of manufacturing evidence as a pretext for war.

[Princess Serenity]

You think Iran will saying: "Oh. We didn't mean it?" comment? Because didn't they just say we didn't fly off a rocket?

[Unlimited]

It's not all propaganda. The rocket test just happened a few days ago. Perhaps you don't feel there is a clear intent by Iran, nonetheless there is a threat....no doubt about it.

If the Israelis feel there is an imminent threat.....what do you think they will do about it?

I think the israelis should attack them if theyre gonna..just get it over with...why do they need to drag europe and america into their constant conflicts....the zionist state was created to make friction in the region....perpetual war; for perpetual profit...whatever happened to peace on earth?..it's not good for war based economies i guess....

[EmpressStarXVII]

This game that seems to be being played is getting really old.

[Aztec Warrior]

Indeed, a posturing, non-nuclear Iran is preferrable to a posturing, nuclear US/Israeli pact with a history of manufacturing evidence as a pretext for war.

Iran has successful enriched uranium and has some plutonium, as reported by the IAEA. Must they test a nuclear bomb in order to be nuclear? Because with that logic, Israel is non-nuclear.

When did the US or Israel manufacture evidence for a war? That is leftist propaganda.

Edited March 1, 2007 by Aztec Warrior

[LiQuiD_FuSioN]

pakistan for one, has a huge anti-american population and nuclear weapons...but they have a president who took over in a coup; and he acts as an allie to further his military agenda against India...This is pure zionist propoganda; for the west to get on board in there quest to destroy Iran....

What does Pakistan have to do with Iran right now? Who cares about them.

[Unlimited]

This game that seems to be being played is getting really old.

it's a game of arming both sides since 1948; to create a constant conflict...while arming the israelis to the hilt..clinton was arming the plo as well...just like in the Iran, Iraq war the US armed both sides along with the russians...war is big business, and the middle east is just the profit center...

[coughymachine]

Iran has successful enriched uranium and has some plutonium, as reported by the IAEA. Must they test a nuclear bomb in order to be nuclear? Because with that logic, Israel is non-nuclear.

Ergo, Iran has a nuclear capability? I don't think so, and nor do you, I'm sure. Both the US and Israel do, however.

When did the US or Israel manufacture evidence for a war? That is leftist propaganda.

Is 'leftist' a slur? I'm from the UK and to me, the term is meaningless (other than as a rather prosaic description of one's political leaning), yet somehow I feel you meant something by it. Did you?

The US administration, working with the support of both the UK and Israel, compiled evidence that was simply untrue about Iraq's capabilities in the run up to the war. The administration then sought to persuade the public by making a series of misleading statements, the details of which were set out in a US House of Representatives report entitled Iraq on the Record.

[Method]

He did mean something by a leftist opinion. And theres nothing wrong with that, he's entitled to an opinion aswell you.

[coughymachine]

He did mean something by a leftist opinion. And theres nothing wrong with that, he's entitled to an opinion aswell you.

I don't deny anyone their right to an opinion. I simply asked what it meant, if anything, so I know how I'm being cast.

[Unlimited]

Ergo, Iran has a nuclear capability? I don't think so, and nor do you, I'm sure. Both the US and Israel do, however.

Is 'leftist' a slur? I'm from the UK and to me, the term is meaningless (other than as a rather prosaic description of one's political leaning), yet somehow I feel you meant something by it. Did you?

The US administration, working with the support of both the UK and Israel, compiled evidence that was simply untrue about Iraq's capabilities in the run up to the war. The administration then sought to persuade the public by making a series of misleading statements, the details of which were set out in a US House of Representatives report entitled Iraq on the Record.

I remember the stories..."he has drones that can reach the US and spray you..he has 7 different kinds of chemicals...hes obtaining nuclear fuel from niger"...no US president has ever told so many lies to get into a war....i believe bush is a war criminal; and I think history will show that...to follow him blindly in his latest excursion in fear; would be criminal....

[EmpressStarXVII]

it's a game of arming both sides since 1948; to create a constant conflict...while arming the israelis to the hilt..clinton was arming the plo as well...just like in the Iran, Iraq war the US armed both sides along with the russians...war is big business, and the middle east is just the profit center...

True, but I was referring to the Pro-Israel / Anti-Iran : Pro-Iran / Anti-Israel game being played on the forum by certain parties .

[Unlimited]

True, but I was referring to the Pro-Israel / Anti-Iran : Pro-Iran / Anti-Israel game being played on the forum by certain parties .

yes it is kind getting old...hopefully they'll get it over with...

[Princess Serenity]

Yeah. This should haven't surprised me. But it's scary very scary even to me.

And nothing really surprises me anymore.

[Unlimited]

Yeah. This should haven't surprised me. But it's scary very scary even to me.

And nothing really surprises me anymore.

fears the tool they've been using since the cold war...the only thing to fear is fear itself, FDR said....fear controls the masses; and helps sway peoples feelings when it comes to supporting the war machine....thats why fox news constantly reminds you...there gonna get ya!

[Princess Serenity]

fears the tool they've been using since the cold war...the only thing to fear is fear itself, FDR said....fear controls the masses; and helps sway peoples feelings when it comes to supporting the war machine....thats why fox news constantly reminds you...there gonna get ya!

I know. I love that one saying/line. I've calmed down a bit.

So you're saying they're only using this. To cause fear? It definetly worked on me.