KayEl Posted November 26, 2003 #1 Share Posted November 26, 2003 I have heard that Saruman is going to be cut out of Return of the King and that Christopher Lee is p***ed about it. Is it true? If it is, then Peter Jackson is either getting full of himself, or he is relying too much on the DvD format: So we cut it out, we will put it back in for DvD. I think the Saruman character should be resolved. The films should be edited so all three can be watched without resorting to the DVD for vital background info and other resolutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KynDig Posted November 26, 2003 #2 Share Posted November 26, 2003 well if this is true then a lot of main parts will be cut out... we already know the battle of the hobbits is cut out. and if sauramn is cut out then his death at the end will also be cut out. thats just gay so i dont think it its true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyforrest Posted November 26, 2003 #3 Share Posted November 26, 2003 thats just gay Watch what you say. I don't think those kinds of comments are necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle Posted November 26, 2003 #4 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Yup, I saw Christopher Lee being interviewed a few days ago and he sure is p***ed off !!!!!!! I think what made it worse is that they didn't even have the decency to tell him in person.........I think he only found out when one of his friends read it on the net. I'd be pretty darn annoyed as well if I was him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted November 26, 2003 #5 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Bah! You really need that part of the story...it went to show exactly how far the evil of everything that had happened had extended, and that even the innocent people in the Shire weren't safe from everything that Sauron and Saruman had planned...it also set the "putting everything right" that you also needed at the end, and cutting it out is a bit of a blunder... They have room to add in an so much, but they can't keep in something that vital? They can't possible claim there isn't something dull and needless they could leave out for the special edition instead, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe eubleck Posted November 26, 2003 #6 Share Posted November 26, 2003 story? ...WTF?? Lord of the Rings is a book too?? Well call me a monkey's uncle. Is it written by Steven King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gollum Posted November 26, 2003 #7 Share Posted November 26, 2003 Moe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayEl Posted November 29, 2003 Author #8 Share Posted November 29, 2003 What I don't get is that why is it that Arwen is on the poster and not Eowyn. I mean, Eowyn is going to be facing the Nazgul king in one on one combat, whereas Arwen....sitting on her butt in elaborate gowns yearning for Aragorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KynDig Posted November 29, 2003 #9 Share Posted November 29, 2003 arwen isnt on rotk cover, its aragorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted November 29, 2003 #10 Share Posted November 29, 2003 What I don't get is that why is it that Arwen is on the poster and not Eowyn. I mean, Eowyn is going to be facing the Nazgul king in one on one combat, whereas Arwen....sitting on her butt in elaborate gowns yearning for Aragorn? The last time I checked, the rumour was that Durnhelm was going to be Arwen instead of Eowyn...I don't know if they kept that in. They were also going to have Arwen turn up and fight at Helm's deep, but cut it out at the last minute because as soon as the rumour went out, there was such massive outcry from the fans. Good thing too...I saw some of the early shooting of that, and damn but that woman didn't know one end of a sword from another They might just have taken her out of the Pelenor fields too...I hope they have to be honest. There is a limit to how far they can move away from the books...I accept some of the changes they made (leaving out Tom Bombadil for example, which was also done in the BBC radio version, I was very happy with...I hated that part of the book), but all the same...they're changing quite a few very important details that might just mess up a little of it for the fans of the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KynDig Posted November 30, 2003 #11 Share Posted November 30, 2003 omg tommy bombadil :'( pippin got stuck in a tree hehehe, god they left so much out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayEl Posted November 30, 2003 Author #12 Share Posted November 30, 2003 No, it is Arwen. There is this poster here in New York heralding the Return of the King, on it are Frodo, Samwise, Gandalf, Strider, Gollum, and Arwyn. Liv Tyler must have a photo of Peter Jackson in a compromising position with some form of animal because she barely does anything in the films and yet she has third billing, over Viggo Mortenson, who is fast becoming the main focus of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphina Posted December 1, 2003 #13 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Well...in fairness, he was the main focus of the third book The focus they're giving Arywn though is just plain silly...she was a minor character in the books...I think she appeared in person...*ponders*...once, right at the end I remember in the books feeling really sorry for Eyown because she loved Arigorn, but he didn't return it...she was out there on the front willing to die alongside him, and he only had eyes for this pampered elf princess, who's dad wouldn't let her marry anyone who wasn't king of the entire western world (rich girl's gotta have shopping money I guess) The movies kinda put that to flight...I dunno what Eyown's supposed to be now Arigorn's bit on the side by the looks of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cor_raven Posted December 1, 2003 #14 Share Posted December 1, 2003 Post all the rumors you want your not gonna cut down the lines at the movie theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayEl Posted December 3, 2003 Author #15 Share Posted December 3, 2003 I will be on line to see if any of the rumours are true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic charm Posted December 4, 2003 #16 Share Posted December 4, 2003 so very happy today, booked my tickets for ROTK 17dec. if anyone from usa sees it before let me know if it is the best out of the 3 im so excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobgoblin Posted December 6, 2003 #17 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Well what I heard that because the movie is so long because of the battle scenes in the pelenor field (the movie actually goes over it's 3 hour time limit) that Peter Jackson couldn't add in the scouring of the Shire (with Saruman taking over the shire) because it would be too long. But he didn't cut Saruman out of the whole movie, only certain battle parts. Arwen isn't going to be Dernhelm, Eowyn is because interviews of Eowyn and her fighting role has already been released. OMG, only a few more days.... this waiting is killing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayEl Posted December 6, 2003 Author #18 Share Posted December 6, 2003 Couldn't Jackson cut down on the battle scenes? In the Two Towers, the battle scenes when you first saw it were amazing, but with later viewings, I skipped them totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobgoblin Posted December 7, 2003 #19 Share Posted December 7, 2003 No, I love the battle scenes! They're wicked! Especially when Legolas is fighting. IT's soo funky . I wonder how the battle scene on the Pelenor fields is gonna be. I saw some clips and it looks like it's going to be huge! and those mumakil rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic charm Posted December 7, 2003 #20 Share Posted December 7, 2003 Heres something i read on skynews tonight just thought some of you would like to know. JRR Tolkiensgreat grandson is to appear in the next instalment of the LOTR trilogy. Royd Tolkien, 34 plays the part of a Gondorian Ranger in the new film adaptation of his famous relatives stories. Director Peter Jackson invited him to join the cast of ROTK. Mr Tolkien said, "I was just blown away when Peter Jackson came up with the idear of putting a Tolkien into the film and to be a Gondorian Ranger is a huge privilage". He said he was, "incredibly proud" his great gradfathers stories had been recreated for the big screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobgoblin Posted December 14, 2003 #21 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Oops, my bad I think I was wrong about Saruman. I read in a local magazine here, that Saruman isn't going to be in ROTK in any of the scenes. So sorry for the info I gave earlier. Awwww.... but I can't watch it on Wednesday. My mom promised to bring me to da cinemas which is like 2 hours away and now she can't so I'm in a very down mood .. i wuz waiting 4 it more than christmas ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorless Posted December 14, 2003 #22 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Peter Jackson Defends Saruman Scene Cuts Peter Jackson has been speaking out to AICN about news that New Line had forced him to cut out Christopher Lee's Saruman scenes from The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King. We have decided to save the Saruman sequence for the DVD. It's a great little scene. 7 mins long. Chris is wonderful, as usual. Brad is in about 6 shots. It was a film maker decision - nothing to do with the studio. The problem is that the sequence was originally shot for The Two Towers, as it is in the book. Since The Two Towers couldn't sustain a 7 min "wrap" after Helm's Deep, we thought it would be a good idea to save it for the beginning of the Return of the King. The trouble is, when we viewed various ROTK cuts over the last few weeks, it feels like the first scenes are wrapping last year's movie, instead of starting the new one. We felt it got ROTK off to an uncertain beginning, since Saruman plays no role in the events of ROTK (we don't have the Scouring later, as the book does), yet we dwell in Isengard for quite a long time before our new story kicks off. We reluctantly made the decision to save this sequence for the DVD. The choice was made on the basis that most people will assume that Saruman was vanquished by the Helm's Deep events, and Ent attack. We can now crack straight into setting up the narrative tension of ROTK, which features Sauron as the villian. Killermovies.com That kinda sucks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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