explorer Posted March 26, 2007 #26 Share Posted March 26, 2007 My ancestors were French Huguenots who were kicked out in the 17th century for not being Catholic. Thousands upon thousands were displaced and executed. Maybe I should start getting all angsty at the French about it. Oh wait that wouldn't do any good would it because IT WAS 300 YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN AND THEREFORE MEANS SOD ALL TO MY LIFE OR ANYONE WHO IS ALIVE NOW. ffs, sick of hearing about slavery. People should just be grateful it was abolished in the first place. PS what's the point of demanding an apology? If you don't mean it, surely it's worthless. Black archbishop-"Say sorry." Blair-"I'm sorry." Archbishop-"SOUND LIKE YOU MEAN IT!" Blair-"I do." Archbishop-"You don't." Blair-"I doooo." etc. I wouldn't mind if the wealth of the Catholic Church was liquidated and the proceeds donated to the descendants of whomever had a legitimate claim against them. The practicalities would be a nightmare but the sentiment would be pure. Go forth and be angsty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted March 26, 2007 #27 Share Posted March 26, 2007 A skywriter equals an official national apology? Hardly. Ah, who exactly was laughing? The BNP? Even if it had been official, what repayment would Aborigines owe Australia? The extent of native title was significantly restricted by Australian courts. But you think Aborigines should be eminently grateful? I think it should be on a voluntary basis only -those white Australians who feel the need to apologise to the aboriginal people should be the ones to pay them. They should give up their land and property etc and give it back to the aborigines! Otherwise it’s an empty gesture-an apology with no meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted March 26, 2007 #28 Share Posted March 26, 2007 why is everyone apologizing for something that happened over 200 years ago?....are we that politically correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer Posted March 26, 2007 #29 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Tony Blair has decided to apologise to the aborigines. “Oh behalf of the British people, I’d like to apologise to the aboriginal people of Australia. 200 ys ago, we, the British people decided to dump our ‘undesirables’ and the criminal elements of our then society onto their beautiful land. Mere words cannot express how deeply sorry we are for the inconvenience and hardships endured by the poor innocent, law-abiding aboriginal people by this utterly selfish and thoughtless decision. er….Sorry.” It would sound far more convincing coming from Her Maj. Remember Her Maj's 2006 Xmas address? Perhaps it was only intended for local application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted March 26, 2007 #30 Share Posted March 26, 2007 It would sound far more convincing coming from Her Maj. Remember Her Maj's 2006 Xmas address? Perhaps it was only intended for local application? The Queen's speech is written by the government- besides I'm not watching that old bag on Christmas day. I was watching the Bond film. On channel four.. they had an alternative queen's Christmas speech with a white muslim convert. She was a convert to Islam in 1996 and took up wearing the niqab two years after she converted. Right up your street.. it was well politically correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted March 26, 2007 #31 Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) Well, Dresden held no military value. Period. It was one massive terror-tactic to kill morale. And the Japanese did not murder thousands of US citizens. The primary targets of Pearl Harbour were totally military. Nagasaki and Hiroshima...not so much. Wrong, Nagasaki and Hiroshima were targeted for it was an industrial site that was being use for building Japans Military machines. Edited March 26, 2007 by AROCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedaykin Posted March 26, 2007 #32 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I don't think anyone should pay for the actions of their predecessors, let alone one's from a long dead empire. However, there should be some exceptions...like the US' bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. It's not like Germany and the Holocaust. That was a different government entirely. The same US government is still in power and should therefore offer an apology for killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese. I disagree. Wars are an unusual aspect of human culture. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were carried out to prevent an American invasion of Japan. If those bombings did not take place, then American soldiers would have had to storm the beaches of Japan, and that would not have been well-estimated to about 1 million casualties. Also, what you are saying is rather hypocritical. The British government in power back then during the era of slave trades is still in power today, right? I mean, the British Parliament. Wars cannot be included in judgements concerning these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker Posted March 26, 2007 #33 Share Posted March 26, 2007 NO country should have had to have been exposed to the atom bomb. The A-Bomb is a LASTING weapon: the radiation doesn't leave when the war ends, now does it? I see how it was necessary, but that doesn't make it right. In the end, I guess, we should apologize for the A-Bombs when Japan apologizes for all the Chinese and such they killed during the war..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeProphet Posted March 26, 2007 #34 Share Posted March 26, 2007 I disagree. Wars are an unusual aspect of human culture. The bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were carried out to prevent an American invasion of Japan. If those bombings did not take place, then American soldiers would have had to storm the beaches of Japan, and that would not have been well-estimated to about 1 million casualties So you're saying 9/11 was justified? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Strangelove Posted March 26, 2007 #35 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Wrong, Nagasaki and Hiroshima were targeted for it was an industrial site that was being use for building Japans Military machines. It would've been just as effective to explode it within eye-distance in the ocean. That would've done the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AROCES Posted March 26, 2007 #36 Share Posted March 26, 2007 (edited) It would've been just as effective to explode it within eye-distance in the ocean. That would've done the job. Japan did not surrender after Hiroshima. What more if we just kept bombing the ocean??? Edited March 27, 2007 by AROCES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedaykin Posted March 27, 2007 #37 Share Posted March 27, 2007 So you're saying 9/11 was justified? Care to put a little more effort in? Guerilla warfare is not part of the "war" that I was talking about, if that is what you are referring to. In the end, I guess, we should apologize for the A-Bombs when Japan apologizes for all the Chinese and such they killed during the war..... They tried to deny what they did in World War II, the Japanese are far from apologizing to the Chinese population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurious George Posted March 27, 2007 #38 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Japan PM renews apology Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who is seeking to end an uproar over his remarks on World War 2 sex slaves, on Monday apologised again to the so-called "comfort women". http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,...2089331,00.html US wants more than apology from Japan on sex slaves Washington on Monday urged Tokyo to take responsibility for its role in sex slavery during World War II, after Japan's premier apologized again for prior comments about the so-called "comfort women." "We appreciate that the apology was made. It is a step forward," said Tom Casey, deputy State Department spokesman. "But I think this is a very difficult issue and we certainly would want to see the Japanese continue to address this and to deal with it in a forthright and responsible manner that acknowledges the gravity of the crimes that were committed," he said. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1087328 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted March 27, 2007 #39 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I can see why Blair wont aplogise, but hey all he has to say is sorry an its all over, its only a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conspiracysrus Posted March 27, 2007 #40 Share Posted March 27, 2007 look whatever you think of who done what to who its just the right thing to say if your an university educated prominant world leader. he (blair) rellies heavily on the black vote and so lets see what his multicultural followers will have to say? he and all his cronies are just parasites so who wants his lame two faced wee wee apologie anyway? (could it be that hes banker friends dont wanna be asked for the compensation they would owe)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalcustard Posted March 27, 2007 #41 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I can see why Blair wont aplogise, but hey all he has to say is sorry an its all over, its only a word. its only a word, whats the point in saying sorry if its just a word with no meaning? whats the point in saying that? :angry2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Umbarger Posted March 28, 2007 #42 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I was just wondering, exactly what good would an apology do if it was not from the person who wronged you? I'll kiss your butt and give you my favorite cat if you can find me one person who was ever a slave while it was legal in the U.K. or the U.S. Rather than calling themselves the "Decendants of the Slaves" why can't they just call themselves your "Friends" or your "neighbors"? It comes up so frequently that I'm starting to think that some segments of the population looks back fondly on that time and wishes that they were still there! All this kind of stupidity does is fuel the fires of hate and add to the ranks of the racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted March 28, 2007 #43 Share Posted March 28, 2007 its only a word, whats the point in saying sorry if its just a word with no meaning? whats the point in saying that? :angry2: oh i offended you.. im sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicLogic Posted March 28, 2007 #44 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Three words, GET OVER IT!!!! There are no slaves left alive. You don't see eveyone else running around saying your were mean to my race 200 years ago. Freaking cry babies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted March 28, 2007 #45 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Three words, GET OVER IT!!!! There are no slaves left alive. You don't see eveyone else running around saying your were mean to my race 200 years ago. Freaking cry babies! i agree totally. but if the words appeases some people, then just say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted March 29, 2007 #46 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Say sorry like you just don't mean it I'm sorry we have to put up with so many ungrateful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girty1600 Posted March 29, 2007 #47 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Ok, I want all the Norse to appologize for the Viking raids on Ireland. I'm sorry. Seriously though, when is this going to end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generalcustard Posted March 29, 2007 #48 Share Posted March 29, 2007 oh i offended you.. im sorry. and 50% of england, but we forgive you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer Posted April 1, 2007 #49 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Alright 'no apology' people who draw a blithe line in the architecturally designed sand. What's the legitimate cutoff point for having a gripe? 10 years, 20, do I hear 30? Calling for 35 now, 35 from the righteous Vietnamese in the corner. Do I hear 40, 40 I say, 40 years for this tender juicy lump of sacrimonious resentment, yes, 40 odd years to the black woman who sat next to Rosa in the back of the bus and refused to move for the lily white police asses... Well sorry folks, you're worth no more than a shrapnel brain at Walter Reed, so just GET OVER IT. History restarts...NOW! Psst, can I have an extra million for my Republican favouring, abortion opposing, vision inward, K-street homeless suffragents? Owwoooooh... Yeah sure pal, password is 'Libby'. Now shut your mouth. Zip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted April 1, 2007 #50 Share Posted April 1, 2007 You can say sorry as much as you like explorer.. if you think it'll do any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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