Syd Boggle Posted April 9, 2007 #51 Share Posted April 9, 2007 i think perhaps women are better served in the secret service field, obviously they would be able to gain access to informantion in ways their male counterparts couldnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted April 9, 2007 #52 Share Posted April 9, 2007 this will create friction amoung the troops, WELL PLANNED! giving money good morale booster , NOT! next time troops will wanna be captured, KER CHING! they held a gun to my head boo hoo, people have guns pointed at them all the time now in this country, i to have been held up and had a gun pointed at me, and it shouldn't of happened, if i joined the army i would expect it, to be working i dont expect it. CAN I TELL MY STORY PLEASE FOR £100.000. something stinks and it aint my socks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinders Posted April 9, 2007 #53 Share Posted April 9, 2007 (edited) The way this thread is titled -- just puts some off -- ya' know? And it's rediculous to read on this thread how some of you seem angry that they will get some compensation for the HELL they were put through BECAUSE OF fricken IRAN! Jeez! Good bit here to read from THE SUN: Sailor is right to reveal ordeal Commentary by ANDY McNAB SAS hero and Sun Security Adviser I AM staggered at the armchair "experts" who have the arrogance to criticise Faye Turney and her 14 colleagues. These fools have piped up to whine and b**** about the hostages' every decision. Most recently these commentators are indignant that the Brits are talking to the Press about their ordeal. Don't they realise that if they remain silent about their treatment then Ahmadinejad has succeeded in his plan to fool the world? Talking to the Press is the right of people in the free world. If the MoD banned the group from talking, details about their capture would drip out from family or friends. Letting Faye talk was the best way to put a lid on the situation. It was their decision for her to talk-- not hers. Any criticism about payment received by the group is unfair. I spent today talking to British troops in Afghanistan. If they don't have a problem with the way Faye and her colleagues acted -- then neither should we SOURCE as well as an article on Faye Turney here I also watched a bit of BBC news this morning that was on US TV and uploaded it here called: British Hostage Faye Turney Speaks Edited April 9, 2007 by Cinders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devendra Posted April 9, 2007 #54 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Britain bans paid military interviews http://fe2.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/ap/2007040...3GOOarUaJVSw60A OWNED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted April 9, 2007 #55 Share Posted April 9, 2007 why does money have to be involved in the first place! looks like we all have our price!! so the truth will be printed in the paper!! now thats comedy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverCougar Posted April 9, 2007 #56 Share Posted April 9, 2007 i think perhaps women are better served in the secret service field, obviously they would be able to gain access to informantion in ways their male counterparts couldnt. Wow hay... sexist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted April 9, 2007 #57 Share Posted April 9, 2007 ha ha ha ha my name is sarah sarah bond double d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted April 9, 2007 #58 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Britain bans paid military interviews http://fe2.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/ap/2007040...3GOOarUaJVSw60A OWNED! Good news...owned. LONDON - Britain on Monday banned all military service members from talking to the media in return for payment, reversing its decision to allow the 15 marines and sailors held captive in Iran to sell their stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneAgeQueen Posted April 10, 2007 #59 Share Posted April 10, 2007 i think perhaps women are better served in the secret service field, obviously they would be able to gain access to informantion in ways their male counterparts couldnt. You're a misogynist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted April 10, 2007 #60 Share Posted April 10, 2007 i think perhaps women are better served in the secret service field, obviously they would be able to gain access to informantion in ways their male counterparts couldnt. Aaaaaaand another Hollywood General. Buddy, you wouldn't believe what some of those women are capable to do in combat. They would turn you an Eunuch you wouldn't even notice it untill...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmpressStarXVII Posted April 10, 2007 #61 Share Posted April 10, 2007 You're a misogynist X2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer Posted April 10, 2007 #62 Share Posted April 10, 2007 During testing in the 50's for the upcoming space program, women proved themselves highly adept at handling the challenges of space travel. Link In fact studies showed that women were less prone to heart attacks and less vulnerable to loneliness, cold, heat, pain and noise. Wouldn't such skills be handy in a war torn situation? Cop that testicle brains...of the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted April 10, 2007 #63 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Wow hay... sexist. hur hur you said sex.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted April 10, 2007 #64 Share Posted April 10, 2007 didn't challenger 1987 blow up cause a woman was drivng it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Boggle Posted April 10, 2007 #65 Share Posted April 10, 2007 (edited) You're a misogynist I dont believe there is anything misogynistic about that comment, i think it pays tribute to the different skills women have, im sure women have aquired information that has prevented wars, terrorist attacks etc... Ultimately in my time in the army, if i were behind enemy lines & was under fire from a woman, i would have no choice but to down my weapon & find a way of rendering her unconscious temporarily using a sleeper hold.....failing that i would surrender & order my regiment to follow!!! I am to much of a gentleman to OpenFire at a woman, or physically strike them.... Hopefully people can appreciate these dying values Edited April 10, 2007 by lord scrummage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted April 10, 2007 #66 Share Posted April 10, 2007 I think they are judging you rather harshly. I do think you underestimate women, to a certain extent, but your chivalry is admirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer Posted April 11, 2007 #67 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I dont believe there is anything misogynistic about that comment, i think it pays tribute to the different skills women have, im sure women have aquired information that has prevented wars, terrorist attacks etc... Ultimately in my time in the army, if i were behind enemy lines & was under fire from a woman, i would have no choice but to down my weapon & find a way of rendering her unconscious temporarily using a sleeper hold.....failing that i would surrender & order my regiment to follow!!! I am to much of a gentleman to OpenFire at a woman, or physically strike them.... Hopefully people can appreciate these dying values Of course Flashman, you would have overwhelmed her with those irresistable masculine wiles of yours. Hey James, shaken not stirred, hand down the old zip? No, obviously you didn't meet a woman behind enemy lines, because if she had any self respect she would have shot your lily white butt into oblivion! Oblivion I say, old beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggles Posted April 11, 2007 #68 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) I believe in 99.9% of cases woman should be able to have the same job as any man and i think it should be as simple as if the woman can meet the standard deemed necessary to do the job and they are the best person for the job they should get it. Problems occur when PC organizations have quotas to fill to make them appear non-sexist an woman get the jobs because they are woman not because they are the best person for the role. This i think is where woman loose credibility and in worst case scenario peoples lives become in danger. For example the Police and fire service the physical entry level for a woman is considerably lower than that of a man, why? If a woman meets the same standard as set for the men i'm all for them joining these services but why should woman have lower entry requirement to perform the same job, will criminals go easy on a copper because she is a woman? will heavy people go on diets in case female fire fighters have to rescue them? My old man used to be on the firearms team in the police before it became the armed response - the British equivalent of SWAT. Now to get on the team one of the tests was to drag a 15 stone dead weight a 100 or so meters in under a certain time to demonstrate the ability to drag wounded officers to safety. Woman doing the same test only had to drag an 9 stone dead weight. Now again i don't have a problem with woman having this sort of job but in this instance peoples lives were put in danger and the blokes went mad because of it, not because it was a boys club but because it weakened the teams and if one of them got shot how could they rely on the woman to pull them to safety? Now my point is if the woman had done the same tests as the blokes no one could say they should not be there and they would be given much more respect. The 0.1% of jobs i don't think woman should be allowed is that of the infantry soldier but i have been wrong before Edited April 11, 2007 by Q-Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneAgeQueen Posted April 11, 2007 #69 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Of course Flashman, you would have overwhelmed her with those irresistable masculine wiles of yours. Hey James, shaken not stirred, hand down the old zip? No, obviously you didn't meet a woman behind enemy lines, because if she had any self respect she would have shot your lily white butt into oblivion! Oblivion I say, old beast! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zimbob Posted April 11, 2007 #70 Share Posted April 11, 2007 We are assuming the target for the female operative is "hetro" Imo in some scenarios a female operative can be more effective and have more resources allowing her to subtly achieve the objective. Woman can and unfortunately do fight, a mate was telling me that kung-fu was invented by women in Asia so they could protect themselves and the farm while the men were off at war, I guess we have all been a bit brainwashed to believe that women would find some things too difficult to do, the only people that break these taboo's and stereotype's are women. However getting back on track, I think the soldiers should be able to publish there memoirs in certain special cases so the public know what the truth is and not just have the propaganda to rely on to make a conclusion, however the soldiers affected should have restrictions imposed like they have to donate 50% of the profits to the soldiers “family hurt/dead fund". An independent moderator can judge whether the publication is completely for profit or if it serves the public interest that the information contained is best “out in the open”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellar Posted April 11, 2007 #71 Share Posted April 11, 2007 The 0.1% of jobs i don't think woman should be allowed is that of the infantry soldier but i have been wrong before Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted April 11, 2007 #72 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I think they should be able to do whatever they could Before they got captured. If they couldn't write about topics until after their service, then they should wait. And then after, write all they want. Women, and Men... are different... and in general some are better suited for certain activities than others, allowing for exceptional individuals on both sides. She did correct one reporter in an interview. Made it a point that it was to be known that she is/was a "Semen Specialist". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob26003 Posted April 11, 2007 #73 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (edited) See, that is one thing you have to understand about right wingers. They long for the "good old days" They want to turn back the clock............ All the way back to the days of a fuedal society. Back when there were lords and peasants and the Church was the State and heretics were burned. Like I said, if Woman are dangerous and ineffective to put in Combat, I am sure there are ways this could be proven, tests that could be administered. And like I said before, I guarantee there are plenty of dudes that would tuck tail and run before plenty of chicks. Edited April 11, 2007 by Bob26003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTomis Posted April 11, 2007 #74 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Your ignorance is very entertaining. Wish you would post more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted April 11, 2007 #75 Share Posted April 11, 2007 On topic...I guess the soldiers werent allowed to cash in..thank goodness...who cares what some wet behind the ears pow did for 15 days...."they stripped us and made us put on pajamas"...then they told us iranian bedtime stories.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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