Bill Hill Posted April 12, 2007 #26 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Very well put. The reason they dont try those countries is very simple,,, social welfare. and when it is its no where near as good as the US, England , Ireland social welfare systems C'mon, you're claiming benifits in finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneAgeQueen Posted April 12, 2007 #27 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I should also add, that i have had enough of seeing asylum seekers harrassing the general public for money, just the other day my wife was harrassed for money by a man wearing jogging bottoms & a leather jacket.....this has become a common sight around dulwich village & its not befitting to the area.. That's what is starting to happen in Belfast too.. and we've never had that before. Some of those people can be really intimidating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truethat Posted April 12, 2007 #28 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think the best way to combat immigration issues is to simply cap the amount of money that is allowed to be sent out of the US each year. If we made this country the way it used to be "A place to start over" rather than a place to sponge off of to build a villa in Egypt or Ecuador, there would be a whole different face to immigration. If you want to come to this country to work.....by all means. But the money needs to stay HERE and not get sent back home. Many immigrants use the US to get benefits from and really have no intention of staying here. Ultimately though they wind up liking it here and sticking around. I know so many Egyptians who did this and built beautiful homes in Egypt that they will never use. Its a total waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted April 12, 2007 #29 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) With the increasing emmigration of those with any money and an ounce of common sense it is only a matter of time till the UK is completely full of "home grown" benefits scroungers, layabouts and immigrants. Currently 1/3 of the country rely upon some form of government handouts. Who will be paying for these handouts if the brightest and richest, who are currently paying 50% taxation to fund drink and drugs for 17 year olds in council houses with 4 kids (cheers Gordon!), lets hope these immigrants have a strong entrepeneurial spirit. Although I am about to join this emmigration I will have no access to any government funds/housing where I am going and so it should be, I would be ashamed to go and beg. Just one tip....don't tell anyone where you are going or the scroungers will soon follow. Edited April 12, 2007 by Moon Monkey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted April 13, 2007 #30 Share Posted April 13, 2007 C'mon, you're claiming benifits in finland. And where did you get that idea, as a matter of fact i employ 83 people on a regular basis, and 40 odd more when i put the show on the road. im actually amazed that you would show such ignorance and stupidity, especially when you comment on somebody you know nothing about. Empty vessels and all that i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoszerg Posted April 13, 2007 #31 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I should also add, that i have had enough of seeing asylum seekers harrassing the general public for money, just the other day my wife was harrassed for money by a man wearing jogging bottoms & a leather jacket.....this has become a common sight around dulwich village & its not befitting to the area.. I may not agree with you on a lot of things but I will agree with you on this. I too was bothered the other day by a woman asking me for money and she had 3 GOLD TEETH!!!! I think the main problem is that when people go over to other country's to stay most of the time the individuals don't bother to learn the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasgirlheather Posted April 13, 2007 #32 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) I think the best way to combat immigration issues is to simply cap the amount of money that is allowed to be sent out of the US each year. If we made this country the way it used to be "A place to start over" rather than a place to sponge off of to build a villa in Egypt or Ecuador, there would be a whole different face to immigration. If you want to come to this country to work.....by all means. But the money needs to stay HERE and not get sent back home. Many immigrants use the US to get benefits from and really have no intention of staying here. Ultimately though they wind up liking it here and sticking around. I know so many Egyptians who did this and built beautiful homes in Egypt that they will never use. Its a total waste. I agree with that thought. To me, immigrants sending all their money back home seems akin to your down-on-his-luck friend crashing on your couch. At first you don't ask him for money because you know he doesnt' have any. But two years later, he's still living on your couch, spending all his money on things that are outside of the house and don't benefit your household economy. But he's still eating your food, watching your t.v., and running up your water bill taking a shower every day. If he's spending his money on bars, entertainment, shopping, etc... otherwise stimulating an economy outside of your own, while leeching off of your economy, you were too kind. You have allowed him to destroy your home, and you have only yourself to blame. If he wants to spend money on things of his choosing, that's fine, but it should be only after he has paid his bills to you. The moral: If you choose to let your cousin crash on your couch, there should be an understanding from the beginning that there will be consequences if he doesn't begin contributing to your economy as soon as he's able to. And also, you shouldn't let more cousins crash on your couch than can be supported by the couch while they're crashed on it. edit: However, if we say made it a law to cap money sent out, we would have to make an exception for charities located in other countries. People would then find a way to legally call their people back home that they're sending money to, "charities." I think someone in Texas tried to put a surcharge on money sent to Mexico. I don't remember anything at all about the details, it just is ringing a bell. I don't remember how that ended up. I think it was not passed, I will try to see what I can come up with on that. Edited April 13, 2007 by texasgirlheather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlimited Posted April 13, 2007 #33 Share Posted April 13, 2007 the amazing thing about immigration is the elite welcome it with open arms! because it's good for the short term bottom line...I'ts joe six pack that has a problem with it... because he's seeing the mexican flag being run up in his neighborhood...if your against immigration your considered racist?...it's a no win situation...In my country we dont enforce immigration laws ..we just make up excuses to benefit the elite...."oh americans wont do this work"...no not for the wages your paying!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggles Posted April 13, 2007 #34 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) The fact is i do have a problem with the ridicules increases in immigrants but at the end of the day, i would rather live next door to a hard working non English speaking immigrant than a ****ing lazy Dole scrounging perfectly able body c**t with 6 kids, who thinks England owes them every thing when they are willing to give nothing and who only get of there fat arses to demand the government give them another BMW to take there kids to the bookies in and another 20K an year because its against there human rights not to go to the Bahamas every 6 weeks. Yeah immigration is a problem but there are much bigger ones on our door steps. Holiday resorts for prisons, Kids that don't know why they are not allowed to stab people when they get 'disrespected' and pedophiles who get non custodial sentences because they were 'curious' as what it would be like to get sucked off by a toddler. Anyway,back on track, no, i don't think Britain has done anything wrong, i think Britain is more than doing its fair share for asylum-seekers in europe and there is a long list of other countries that should be scrutinized for much more than us for turfing out a few freeloaders. Edited April 13, 2007 by Q-Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggles Posted April 13, 2007 #35 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) sorry doubble posted Edited April 13, 2007 by Q-Ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted April 14, 2007 #36 Share Posted April 14, 2007 I would rather live next door to a hard working non English speaking immigrant than a ****ing lazy Dole scrounging perfectly able body c**t with 6 kids, who thinks England owes them every thing when they are willing to give nothing and who only get of there fat arses to demand the government give them another BMW. I resent this, I haven't got any kids and another thing...oh right, I see the point the point you're making.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chemical-licker Posted April 14, 2007 #37 Share Posted April 14, 2007 i think hes talking about scrounging gypos? there a menace to society and i agree, BRING IN THE ASYLUM IMMIGRANTS, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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