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http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/62736/T...n_Black_Culture

Patrick Wintour and Vikram Dodd

Thursday April 12, 2007

The Guardian

Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.

One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".

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I don't think it's race specific unless you go into races *Targeted* to become something. Then you need to look at *who*/(what ideology) is targeting them.

It's more of a cultural/social thing, not really race specific. It's the result of lack of education/*Twisted education*/twisted idea of "freedom" and "rights", entitlement mentality... basically these are the effects of socialism/Marxism, not pigmentation.

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what it is, is what it is. in united states you can't say anything no matter how overwhelmingly convincing the statistics are

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All this bs I hear about "It's because they live in poverty!" It isn't. I know many white people who lived in horrendous conditions but now are doing great with good jobs and a family.

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Everyone knows it's true... but for years ya just couldn't say it, not without being labelled a racist... :w00t: Is it ok now Blair has said it?

Now where are the excuses? Which one shall we pick today? what's the most fashionable one these days?

I got lies to feed

They want skin and seed

And now don't make me crawl

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Is it ok now Blair has said it?

He probably knows he is going soon so letting it all out :P He'll come out on the day before he leaves in a dressing gown clutching a beer swearing and telling the media to 'go away' :rolleyes:

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what it is, is what it is. in united states you can't say anything no matter how overwhelmingly convincing the statistics are

Sorry, I don't know what you're talking about..(sniff) :innocent:

Oh wait, you mean these statisitics..

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I'm telling you it's whiteys fault.

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He's right. An overwhelming percetage of gang related viuolence in the UK is black on black. There is nothing racist abiout what Blair has said, its fact.

And fact is that a lot of young black men in the UK are looking over to the black gangs in the US, taking this gang culture and making it part of the black culture here. Blair is not saying that all black people are in gangs or violent, and neither am I, what he's saying black youths for whatever reason are increasingly turning to gang culture - and instead of shutting your eyes and saying 'your a racist' the population should wake up and do something about it.

As someone who worked in a Sherrifs court for some time I can say honestly that ethnic minoties made up a massive chuck of the criminal population dispite being minorities. It can't all be blamed on crime, something seriously wrong is going on in the culture of some ethnic minorities in the UK. And instead of turning a blind eye and screaming 'racist, racist' the PC brigade who run this country should wake up and deal with it.

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not sure about the black thing, but definitly the glamourisation or the gansta, criminal, rapper, respect horsecrap.

has a great deal to do with it. when are these people gonna realise its just a stage show. just songs, just making money singing about a lifestyle they dont even live in( the rappers i mean),

its pretty pathetic that they cant tell between real life and theatrics.

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In the US if you said such a thing you would be run out of town on a railcar(if you were lucky). Sharpton and Jackson would be busy gathering millions to protest you and your claims, yet all but ignoring the black on black crime and the black urban culture that has developed where criminals are held upon a pedestal, jailtime is a right of passage, and murdering someone is the ultimate sign of manhood.

I wish Sharpton spent as much time on the root of the problem as he did with lone white males that say something stupid. What a waste of power.

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I thought most of those referred to as "NED's" were white. Most. Guess I'm wrong on that.

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I thought most of those referred to as "NED's" were white. Most. Guess I'm wrong on that.

Neds can be any race. Also neds don't neccesarily have to be criminals... just a lot of them are. A ned is just someone who engages in anti-social behaviour and is stupid. But anti-social bahviour - like constant swearing, living off the dole etc are not criminal acts... just bloody annoying ones.

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Perhaps 'black culture' is the wrong term to use, maybe 'gang culture' or mayyyyyybe even 'urban black culture'. Just thinking that there are a lot of black people that dislike gangs, the culture that springs from it and that culture being named 'black culture', like black people have no other culture.

'Gang culture' includes anyone black, white, hispanic or asian involved in gangs and the gang culture. In my part of Canada you wont find any black gangs but you will find East Indian and Asian gangs that very much resemble the gangs of other ethnic groups. Should these gang cultures be called 'East Indian culture' or 'Asian culture'? I dont think so, there already is an East Indian culture and Asian culture here and it doesnt involve gangs or violence.

That said it doesnt really change anything, its just a term, but if I were someone like Blair who wants to rally some support I would be far more careful about what term I used. It is politics after all.

*snip*

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They’re certainly responsible for sh** music.. a bit of sun and London comes alive with the sound of ‘crap’ music. I’m not even talking about hiphop, at least I can appreciate the beats n bass.. but man, UK ragga garage is really sh**e. It sounds like two Jamaican’s arguing while someone’s randomly smacking two dustbin lids. SHUTTDAUP..

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So, I live in South West Georgia. It's in the United States, for those of you that don't know. We call it "SoWeGa". Pretty original, Huh? My home county has about 100,000 residents, Approximately 85% of which are black,10% are white, and the rest is made up of "other".

Anyway. I worked in a county jail here in SoWeGa. Of 225 employees of the county sheriffs office, I'd say about 75 of us were not black. About 150 were black. Our county jail could max out at 1,200 of varying clasifications. We generally held around 800 inmates at any given time. Guess what percentage, on average, were black? Give up? It was 97.8%. Roughly 1.4% were white and the remainder were "other".

Still, many in the county seat claimed that the Sheriffs Office was racist because there were so many more blacks in jail than whites. There was a claim that it was due to unfair policing. That is right. The claim was that a predominantly black law enforcement agency was racist against blacks.

An interesting email that I received some time ago mentioned the often stated claim that "white people commit just as many crimes as blacks". It then brought up the point that "if that statement is true, why is it that the black sections of town have the highest crime rates and are often feared, even by the residents there of?".

O.K. so, it's racist to say it. O.K., call me a racist. An old Russian proverb states that "If the shoe fits, wear it". A Lord Umbarger proverb is: "If you don't want to be profiled, don't fit the stereotype".

*snip* Let's not turn this thread into a discussion concerning the utterance of derogatory epithet's.

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It's pretty much acceptable to be racist towards whites. And it's only whites who are racist. In Europe there seems to be a uprising of Nationalism. The people here are getting fed up of PC and the amount of immigrants pouring into Europe.

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, yet all but ignoring the black on black crime and the black urban culture that has developed where criminals are held upon a pedestal, jailtime is a right of passage, and murdering someone is the ultimate sign of manhood.

I'm a white female....but my take on the subject in question....black on black crime....it's about MALE black on black crime. Sometimes black females are in the firing line, literally...there was a very bad incident in Britain a few years back, when on New Years Eve some young black gang members sprayed bullets at an innocent group of young black females.

But we're talking about men, here.

The 'black culture' seems to be very 'alpha male' dominanted There seems to be huge pressures on young black men to be tough and dominant. The less power they have, the more the temptation to over-compensate.

Asian men, in predominately white society, have their religion, where they reign, as males, supreme. Black men don't have this...and they are expressing their alpha male desires in other ways.

I'm not making excuses for senseless violence and murder, just trying to understand it.

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I'm a white female....but my take on the subject in question....black on black crime....it's about MALE black on black crime. Sometimes black females are in the firing line, literally...there was a very bad incident in Britain a few years back, when on New Years Eve some young black gang members sprayed bullets at an innocent group of young black females.

But we're talking about men, here.

The 'black culture' seems to be very 'alpha male' dominanted There seems to be huge pressures on young black men to be tough and dominant. The less power they have, the more the temptation to over-compensate.

Asian men, in predominately white society, have their religion, where they reign, as males, supreme. Black men don't have this...and they are expressing their alpha male desires in other ways.

I'm not making excuses for senseless violence and murder, just trying to understand it.

Bee, I have to agree with you. You mentioned a city where a few "black People" did a "drive-by" shooting.

The Ciity is called Nottingham, and it's had MORE black shootings since that headline. (rather a lot, actually))

I LIVE in Nottingham, and my City is rapidly becoming a by-word for gun crime and violence int he UK. And it is mostly- if not exclusively (I don't have the precise statistics to hand) from young black males. I think you've raised a very pertinant point with your analysis of black males and "alpha male" paradigm. If in doubt, just look at the lyrics of "black" music (yes, I know I'm generalising here, but indulge me)... it's full of "slap me ho's " and other - incredibly - violent anti-women messages.

Where is the feminist movement ? We have laws (in the UK) about discrimination against women (mostly due to the tireless efforts of Feminists throught the last 100 years, many of whom suffered personal privations for their beliefs in order to change society) , but this seems to be disregarded when the culprits are black. Having fought for the right to vote, it seems that they (the feminist movement) will not fight for the right not to be raped... at least.. not by black people. Oh dear... a chrisis of liberal thought ? (all black people are victims by (liberal) definition, and cannot be criticised. )

As for your comments on "Asian Men"... could I ask you to be cautious ? Not all Asian men are Muslims. And it is only Islam that mandates - in it's core scripture - that women are not human beings, but merely tractable property. (gosh , once more, where are the femenists... ? )

AT the end of the day, it's all to Complicated for the working Cat to understand....

But... we're going to have full-blown civil war in the UK very soon....I'm stocking up on Kiippers.

Meow Purr.

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It's pretty much acceptable to be racist towards whites. And it's only whites who are racist.

Agreed, ethnic minorities as a whole seem to be far more racist that ethnic majorities - but its not acknowledged as racism.

Two days back I was watching BBC News before work and they were talking about ethnic minorities in the police force. Black/Asians make up 8% of the UK population, but the government wants to introduce Positive Discrimination to allow them to make up a minimum of 10% of police staff. The form of Discrimination would be to have the passing grade for blacks/Asians being lower than that of whites.

THAT IS RACIST!

But the government didn't see it that way, because its not racist to discriminate against whites (they claim).

They had two guests one Sikh and one black. The Sikh guy was arguing against this new policy, recognising it was discriminating whites and saying that he wouldn’t want to get into the police based on his race and neither would any self-respecting ethnic minority.

The black community leader was completely different; he gave a little rant about it being fair, and that it was only giving black people the chance to free themselves of white domination in the labour force (ITS WHITE DOMINATED BECAUSE WE MAKE UP MOST OF THE POPULATION SH*****D! Is it racist that Blacks make up most of the African working population?!). He then said blacks where sick and tired of the police patrolling their areas having ‘white faces’ and they shouldn't have to accept it.

Can you imagine the uproar if a representative of the white community (not that we seem to have one) like MP came on tv and said 'Whites are sick of seeing police in our area with black faces, we only want white police officers!'

There would be riots in the street! He would be fired and attacked by the media!

But what happened to this racist scum? The two white presenters nodded and agreed he had a fair point... WHAT THE-?!

No wonder the BNP and other white racist groups are on the rise, given how acceptable racism by ethnic minorities against whites is and our government not only ignores it but backs it up, many people must see white supremist groups as the only means of standing up to black-racism because our moderate leaders as weak idiots.

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Neds can be any race. Also neds don't neccesarily have to be criminals... just a lot of them are. A ned is just someone who engages in anti-social behaviour and is stupid. But anti-social bahviour - like constant swearing, living off the dole etc are not criminal acts... just bloody annoying ones.

You should have stopped your post at that point.

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I'm a white female....but my take on the subject in question....black on black crime....it's about MALE black on black crime. Sometimes black females are in the firing line, literally...there was a very bad incident in Britain a few years back, when on New Years Eve some young black gang members sprayed bullets at an innocent group of young black females.

I think 'Black on black crime' is misnomer designed to distract people. As if a criminal who is black decides to act as a law abiding citizen only to white people? If you cross them or if they want something they’ll take you out regardless of colour

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Here's a good one.

My neighbour works for the police force here (Bristol) in the operations room. He told me that the chief police officer is big on political correctness. In bristol we have a predominantly black community called St. Pauls. You may have heard of it because a few years back there were 'race riots' or to give it it's non pc title 'mass looting'

So this neighbour found that he was having to log names & addresses of lots of people that we not actually charged with any offence, which he couldn't understand. It transpires that this pc police chief has told his officers patrolling St. Pauls that for every black person that is stopped & questioned, they then have to stop & question a white person. (to keep the records 'balanced').

Now think about that for a minute. In a predominantly black area they have to seek out an equal number of white people as black people!!! Do you suppose that other officers in a predominantly white area have to seek out an equal number of black suspects to 'balance the figures'?

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