Princess Serenity Posted June 12, 2007 #26 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Geez... but true and sad! I know. >.< It's kinda sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Monkey Posted June 12, 2007 Author #27 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Oh yeah women are the poor innocent victims. Prostitution was started by women exploiting men! Men just like sex...no big deal... a woman came along and thought ...mmmh He wants it so therefore I can charge him for this. As every man knows...in some way or another..all Men end up paying for it in the end! I know its off topic but... Drug dealing and prostitution are illegal in the UK. If you are caught buying drugs the buyer gets a slap on the wrist and the seller gets time. If you are caught buying sex the seller gets a slap on the wrist and the buyer gets publically named , shamed and his (usually) life ripped apart. Why is that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee Posted June 12, 2007 #28 Share Posted June 12, 2007 There's been more about this murder on the news today and many other so-called 'honour' killings. Many people on this thread are saying that these types of murder are the same as other kinds. I think that they are in a category of their own. Anyone who kills their own or anyone elses child is sick/evil/mental...one of these or a mixture of all three. But it is the cultural and religious collusion of 'honour' killings that is so sickening. It is the separate set of 'laws' that exists outside the accepted 'rule of law' of the host nation....and in Britain...any individual is entitled BY LAW to love who they chose to and marry who they chose. This is their RIGHT. Muslims who are bravely speaking out against these abhorrent murders become targets themselves and have to go into hiding....disguise themselves to speak on TV....live in fear of their lives. This is totally unacceptable and the full force of the law OF THIS LAND must be used to tackle this problem. ................................................................ [ frankly I couldnt care less That is evident. [if you wish to only focus on what the news tells you, then you probably think paris hilton is more important than the war in Iraq. I popped into a 'Paris Hilton' thread FOR THE FIRST time(as she hold no interest for ME) a few minutes ago to see if you'd been there....and I note that you yourself have written a post on the Paris Hilton topic.....!!!!!! So go ahead and be revolted by the crazy muslims but turn a blind eye to the child who is being drowned in a bathtub by people who pray to the same god as you. For the record I don't pray to any god!! Do you? If yes...which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted June 12, 2007 #29 Share Posted June 12, 2007 So she was killed for falling in love with the wrong person. Is that any different than when a husband kills his wife for falling in love with someone else? Yes, it is different, the husband murdered through passion and jealousy, the muslim father was a racist, saying that their fate should be the same, because the poster of this thread thought this murder was abhorrent it don't mean she doesn't think other murders aren't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Boggle Posted June 12, 2007 #30 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) Oh boy... What planet this chap Indian came from? I will warn my family to take care... Sigh, are just the same thing, no matter how hard we try to be different, in the end we will be the same... Geez... but true and sad! Absolutely feanor, its a fact of life people seldom like to admit, but its a natural instinct for survival, the various races on this planet, instinctually frown on mix breeding as it dilutes ones own race! Its a primal response for survival....This is quite evident amongst the Jewish for example, who will only allow you entry into the jewish fold if ones mother is herself jewish! This rule, takes into consideration that men like to screw around, so in this manner,eliminates illigitimate entry! (although im not quite sure how Vanessa Feltz figures in the equation) Again in South Africa, there is a growing population of mix bred people, who have become outcasts by both white & blacks.....obviously both races are united in their instincts of race survival. Im not condoning honour killings, but i am giving the view point that, many peoples insanity is on a knife edge, and honour killings are just the catalist for someones already unstable mind! ofcourse going back to my own predicament, what would I & my wife Mrs Scrummage have in common with a potential Jamaican Grandson! none! trouble with the loony lefties of this world, is that they want modern civilization to reflect StarTrek's uber cultural uphoria!! Well i got some bad news!!! youll be waiting a millennia! and even then, there can be only one!.....race Edited June 12, 2007 by lord scrummage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Posted June 12, 2007 #31 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Well i got some bad news!!! youll be waiting a millennia! and even then, there can be only one!.....race (partial quote) There is already only one race and it’s a.k.a HUMAN RACE. Regardless all ethnic it have, it’s a ONE race. Of course our planet holds other races but they usually are in zoo can be our pets. I will respect your Idea of race, you are right to defend yours beloved, but I will never understand why some think that some people are chosen over another. We all came from the same Creator and perhaps we all will meet with the Creator again some day and I am sure he don’t bother if you are white and I am black or vice versa and he will not separate you from me in our home in heaven or what ever you may call it. Kind regards, -Feanor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted June 12, 2007 #32 Share Posted June 12, 2007 is it Race, Religion, or Culture? Seems like if it's Race, impure mix breeds like myself are pretty much doomed... round us up an dispose of us rightfully so? Never once thought the problem is racial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted June 12, 2007 #33 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Oh yeah women are the poor innocent victims. Prostitution was started by women exploiting men! Men just like sex...no big deal... a woman came along and thought ...mmmh He wants it so therefore I can charge him for this. As every man knows...in some way or another..all Men end up paying for it in the end! that is the most ignorant answer I've read. educate yourself on the matter before you put forth an opinion . nothing worse than an uneducated opinion. it's a waste of space. why then through ancient times 99% of prostitution is headed by male pimps/overseers ? women and children around the globe are still FORCED with thier lives threatened into prostitution. Even here in America. ! prostutution was started with men exploiting women - usually slaves. try looking at the reason women prostitute in America today. most out of drug use and force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted June 12, 2007 #34 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I know its off topic but... Drug dealing and prostitution are illegal in the UK. If you are caught buying drugs the buyer gets a slap on the wrist and the seller gets time. If you are caught buying sex the seller gets a slap on the wrist and the buyer gets publically named , shamed and his (usually) life ripped apart. Why is that ? the penalties shoulld be harsher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted June 12, 2007 #35 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Absolutely feanor, its a fact of life people seldom like to admit, but its a natural instinct for survival, the various races on this planet, instinctually frown on mix breeding as it dilutes ones own race! Its a primal response for survival....This is quite evident amongst the Jewish for example, who will only allow you entry into the jewish fold if ones mother is herself jewish! This rule, takes into consideration that men like to screw around, so in this manner,eliminates illigitimate entry! (although im not quite sure how Vanessa Feltz figures in the equation) Again in South Africa, there is a growing population of mix bred people, who have become outcasts by both white & blacks.....obviously both races are united in their instincts of race survival. Im not condoning honour killings, but i am giving the view point that, many peoples insanity is on a knife edge, and honour killings are just the catalist for someones already unstable mind! ofcourse going back to my own predicament, what would I & my wife Mrs Scrummage have in common with a potential Jamaican Grandson! none! trouble with the loony lefties of this world, is that they want modern civilization to reflect StarTrek's uber cultural uphoria!! Well i got some bad news!!! youll be waiting a millennia! and even then, there can be only one!.....race here's your hood - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hnnjsn Posted June 12, 2007 #36 Share Posted June 12, 2007 the penalties shoulld be harsher. i wonder whatyou would think if you were raised in a drug city, join the military and land in a country where prostitution is legal. addiction is a disease sounds like you dont have it it must be nice. as for women i will pay any price toa women who offers herself to me i am grateful for that. ugly guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celumnaz Posted June 12, 2007 #37 Share Posted June 12, 2007 you can't blackmail the clients of prostitutes if it's legal normal citizens can't be kept in check through fear if self medication were legal those laws are about Control, govt control over the population like the income tax, it's about control (tax break if you're this way, extra tax if you're this way, don't do that or we'll tax it, etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Boggle Posted June 12, 2007 #38 Share Posted June 12, 2007 here's your hood - Heres your Bra, I imagine you've burned all yours!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted June 12, 2007 #39 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Many people on this thread are saying that these types of murder are the same as other kinds. I think that they are in a category of their own. Why do you think "honor" killing are worse than the man who killed for the flower "god gave" him? I popped into a 'Paris Hilton' thread FOR THE FIRST time(as she hold no interest for ME) a few minutes ago to see if you'd been there....and I note that you yourself have written a post on the Paris Hilton topic.....!!!!!! And your point is? For the record I don't pray to any god!! Do you? If yes...which one? Hell no. Considering you make value judgements, justifying one murder as more acceptable than another, maybe you should. Yes, it is different, the husband murdered through passion and jealousy, the muslim father was a racist, saying that their fate should be the same, because the poster of this thread thought this murder was abhorrent it don't mean she doesn't think other murders aren't? Its the context these murders are put in by the media. One cultures value system leads to a murder and are labled as a specific trait of that culture. When another cultures value system leads to a murder its not put in the same context. I'll gaurantee you that for every honor killing there are dozens of murders that could be placed in a simular contex about other cultures. Could it have anything to do with the war we are in? During ww2 the Japanese were said to be barbaric predators who ate children and had a backwards culture of war and violence. Today, we have the muslims who kill their children and follow a religion of war and violence. So when Scott Peterson killed his wife and child to save himself the hassle of a divorce couldn't it be contextualized as a "greed killing"? Or maybe when Susan Smith killed her two sons it could be contextualized as a "vanity killing"? Its different cultures, different value systems, same disgusting behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted June 12, 2007 #40 Share Posted June 12, 2007 here's your hood - Are you seriously suggesting the only way to effectively counter Pimp culture is by joining the KKK? Well, I understand the majority of pimps in the UK and USA are black but there must be another solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekorig Posted June 12, 2007 #41 Share Posted June 12, 2007 here's your hood - Lt_Ripley, you are treating te gracefull Lord Scrumage too harly. His piratetly words are just for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted June 12, 2007 #42 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Heres your Bra, I imagine you've burned all yours!! Its that a pic from your personal collection again? Been busy with your "reaserch" eh? Whats your excuse when the wife catches you looking at womens underwear on the net? "just doing some shopping"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Posted June 12, 2007 #43 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I post this once, and I will post it again. I can’t remember who exactly said this, but this echoes in my mind and is something very true. Read below and ponder about it. “One death is a holocaust in microcosm... and one death is too many no matter what the religion or political beliefs of the victim. We mourn the loss of ALL life EQUALLY and do not believe any one group is 'chosen' over another” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted June 12, 2007 #44 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Trouble with the loony lefties of this world, is that they want modern civilization to reflect StarTrek's uber cultural uphoria!! Well i got some bad news!!! youll be waiting a millennia! and even then, there can be only one!.....race Yeah, that's the way in which I see the future is heading... either we'll be a StarTrekian utopia or it'll a ‘Planet of the APES’ hellhole. Again, if anyone thinks that's a racist comment, don't bother complaining, because it's Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMare Posted June 12, 2007 #45 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I post this once, and I will post it again. I can’t remember who exactly said this, but this echoes in my mind and is something very true. Read below and ponder about it. “One death is a holocaust in microcosm... and one death is too many no matter what the religion or political beliefs of the victim. We mourn the loss of ALL life EQUALLY and do not believe any one group is 'chosen' over another” That's beautifully said, Feanor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Umbarger Posted June 12, 2007 #46 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Yeah, that's the way in which I see the future is heading... either we'll be a StarTrekian utopia or it'll a ‘Planet of the APES’ hellhole.Unfortunately, I don't see anybody coughing up dilithium crystals. The last honour killing I heard about was in London. I wonder why so many find it acceptable for them to kill for their religion but, not for western civilization to kill for it's own survival? Why is turn about NOT fair play when it comes to Islam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMare Posted June 12, 2007 #47 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Unfortunately, I don't see anybody coughing up dilithium crystals. The last honour killing I heard about was in London. I wonder why so many find it acceptable for them to kill for their religion but, not for western civilization to kill for it's own survival? Why is turn about NOT fair play when it comes to Islam? Are you sure you've been reading the same thread as we have, Umby ? (sorry, you're name just invites nicknames, i mean it in a nice way, let me know if you're offended) There's unanimous condemnation for the deed in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Umbarger Posted June 13, 2007 #48 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Umby ? (sorry, you're name just invites nicknames, i mean it in a nice way, let me know if you're offended)No problem. "Umby" is fine. It's a long name that I should've shortened for the UM to speed things up. You should hear what I'm getting called on the other thread! I wasn't so much refering to the other members. I heard about htis one on the radio today and there were a few people saying that it was acceptable because it was their culture and all. That kind of got me wound up. Edited June 13, 2007 by Lord Umbarger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaMare Posted June 13, 2007 #49 Share Posted June 13, 2007 No problem. "Umby" is fine. It's a long name that I should've shortened for the UM to speed things up. You should hear what I'm getting called on the other thread! I wasn't so much refering to the other members. I heard about htis one on the radio today and there were a few people saying that it was acceptable because it was their culture and all. That kind of got me wound up. Really !? That's horrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Umbarger Posted June 13, 2007 #50 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Yeah, they were from L.A. I think. It just goes to show that there is something bad wrong with us just under the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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