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GW Bush & the downfall of Tony Blair


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Speaking as a semi-informed American, it seems to me that getting lured into George Bush's holy war was the big think that destroyed the political career of Tony Blair. I'd be very interested to hear other people's opinions on this (especially UK folks)

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Personally I think they are both ignorant, back stabbing jackasses. Sorry but thats my opinion.

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Tony Blair's political career was not destroyed. Who told you that?

He will undoubtable be remembered as one of the finest PM's in UK's history. But then again you are "semi-informed".

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Speaking as a semi-informed American, it seems to me that getting lured into George Bush's holy war was the big think that destroyed the political career of Tony Blair. I'd be very interested to hear other people's opinions on this (especially UK folks)

I don't think that most people in the UK see it that way BlueZone. Tony got a LOT of criticism for the Iraq war, but it's not QUITE such a hot potato as it might be in the USA. (we've had far fewer fatalities to date). Additionaly, people don't necessarily regard him as being 'lured into Bush's war'.

Tony has had as much trouble with domestic issues (which probably don't make the headlines in the US) as he has with the Iraq war.

As for Tony's career being 'destroyed', I fear you are far off the mark. Whillst the Labour party in general (and his approval rating in particular) is at an all time low, it is still far higher than the other political parties. (In this Tony is lucky, as the other parties have all the intellectual rigour, decisiveness, cohesion and popular appeal of a mouldy aubergine. )

I assume you are aware that the handover of power to Gordon Brown was something organised years ago ? (prior to the Iraq war). I'm not sure wether this has been explained in the US media, which I suspect often takes an 'American-centric' perspective, and assumes that EVERYTHING that happens is influenced by the actions of US policy.

Hope this helps :)

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I don't think that most people in the UK see it that way BlueZone. Tony got a LOT of criticism for the Iraq war, but it's not QUITE such a hot potato as it might be in the USA. (we've had far fewer fatalities to date). Additionaly, people don't necessarily regard him as being 'lured into Bush's war'.

Tony has had as much trouble with domestic issues (which probably don't make the headlines in the US) as he has with the Iraq war.

As for Tony's career being 'destroyed', I fear you are far off the mark. Whillst the Labour party in general (and his approval rating in particular) is at an all time low, it is still far higher than the other political parties. (In this Tony is lucky, as the other parties have all the intellectual rigour, decisiveness, cohesion and popular appeal of a mouldy aubergine. )

I assume you are aware that the handover of power to Gordon Brown was something organised years ago ? (prior to the Iraq war). I'm not sure wether this has been explained in the US media, which I suspect often takes an 'American-centric' perspective, and assumes that EVERYTHING that happens is influenced by the actions of US policy.

Huh. That really helps me to understand the situation better. My impression was that he was a pretty decent guy (similar to the Blair character portrayed in the movie "Queen") and somehow he got sucked into Bush's agenda. It ISN'T explained in the US media. At least I haven't seen much about it.

explained in the US media, which I suspect often takes an 'American-centric' perspective, and assumes that EVERYTHING that happens is influenced by the actions of US policy.

You're absolutely right about this. Internal politics of other countries is barely covered unless it relates to us. And when it does relate to us, it's presented with so much political spin it's hard to figure out what happened.

Thanks again for the info.

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Ah, if only the U.K. could have another Iron Maggie....

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Ah, if only the U.K. could have another Iron Maggie....

This is a joke right?

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Tony Blair's political career was not destroyed. Who told you that?

He will undoubtable be remembered as one of the finest PM's in UK's history

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he will be remembered as one of the slipperiest men in history and he sold his people down the river too.

his wife was a repusive specimen of a human and he was and still is worse then iron maggie ever was (and that takes some doing) the antichrist will be among us soon as blair dies.

as ive said b4 cos theres only room for one that evil down there, and by tonies standards that one aint satan. so the poor old fellow is gonna have to come and stay with us.(and ive rather have him up here then tony anyday)

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If keeping election manifesto promises was a legal requirement then Blair would be serving life.

Not sure what his legacy is - Iraq or the swamping of our once great country with 'human rights' and 'PC' legislation. 150 British servicemens families and countless Iraqis probably think the first but as a top human rights and PC lawyer his missis probably thinks the latter.

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