Barek Halfhand Posted July 9, 2007 #151 Share Posted July 9, 2007 ...If I am on the right track with what your question asks, then some may be, some may not be. Equally you could hypothetically argue this in the subject of reincarnation....Hi there Ms Anvil ... That's a huge part of the equasion of course ....is reincarnation like flunking a grade in school? .....(NO not like me! ).....B halfhandshuffle:Michael Jackson - Wanna Be Starting Something http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO9xEupc21U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aere Thalia Posted July 10, 2007 #152 Share Posted July 10, 2007 No, its not Barek. It also depends on the purpose that the person was/is supposed to achieve. Although no matter what, they will still learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 11, 2007 #153 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I for one, would love to hear another story from Iron...Please Iron come out and play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tercado Posted July 11, 2007 #154 Share Posted July 11, 2007 (edited) I tried one of those online boards the other night. I wasn't too serious about it, so my questions were not interesting. Consequently neither were the answers Q: Who is ? (I intentionally left the space blank to see what kind of response I would get) A: Yourself (I thought this was cute) Q: Where am I? A: Far away Q: Beemer or Benz? A: Yes I could've gone on, but I was at work and I think my co worker was sneaking peeks over at my screen. Kinda boring, but I thought I'd give it a go! Edited July 11, 2007 by tercado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGhost Posted July 11, 2007 #155 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I for one, would love to hear another story from Iron...Please Iron come out and play? Thank you for your kind words -- I've been meaning to dig through my files for another story of interest -- I've been extremely busy here, but I'll post another one soon. I remember this incredible Ouija session with the "love beings" but I just have to locate it, and then re-type in in here from our hand-written notebooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneBrowne Posted July 11, 2007 #156 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Thank you for your kind words -- I've been meaning to dig through my files for another story of interest -- I've been extremely busy here, but I'll post another one soon. I remember this incredible Ouija session with the "love beings" but I just have to locate it, and then re-type in in here from our hand-written notebooks. Some good posts IronGhost. I myself have been dabbling in Ouija boards for a few years now and i am a strong believer, moreso from the very first time I played it. THere were 5 of us, and I lived in a house that i believed to be haunted because of all the strange happenings, such as the furnace cutting in when we never had one, or lights getting dim and bright and dim again. So the first time we did the Ouija we were going along and I was recording the whole thing and about a 1/3 of the way into the session we came across a spirit who wanted to show he was there. So we were dumb and said ok .... at that moment all the dishes in the cubbard behind us started to rattle and my friends drums, in their cases, in the poarch started to rattle and if anyone knows about drums in foam cases, they dont make any noise, especially cymbals. So we were freaked out but that was fine, then later from upstairs we heard a little girl whistling and later found out that my roomate always had dreams about a little girl in the attic whistling (before I ever told he about the whistling). It went on and on and some really strange stuff happened. One occurance that was really creepy and I'd like to be able to explain this by some "common sense" as well, there was this guy there who we never knew as my friend brought him along for the ride to say. So he wasn't playin at this particular moment but he was asking questions and this guy wasn't a believer until this moment when an entity named Rose came through. We asked how she died and all this stuff and all of a sudden Justin got freaked right out. We asked what was wrong and my friend who bought him said that his mother died 6 months ago and this is describing her to a tee (but in more detail than he knew). So then Justin was like well if you're really my mother whats my first cousins wifes name, and none of us had a clue obviously from not knowing him, and it gave him the right answer. So we ended the night there because he was so freaked out... I ended up moving out of that house but I would love to be able to go back and do another session, but oh well. So I believe in the Ouija Board as it was a very real experience for me and my 4 friends. So when people come on and say that these things aren't real, that's fine... but they should not be saying that it's isn't real for others. Maybe some people can use them and maybe others can't. I know that I cant' swim, but I don't say swimming doesn't exist. Regardless, some skeptics here are harsh and for the most part shouldn't be paid attention to. There are some that are actually a skeptic and not just use the title. Anyways IronGhost, the next time I use a Ouija Board I will ask thoes questions for you and try to help you out. Now let the razzing on Ouija boards continue.... Cheers, Gene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGhost Posted July 11, 2007 #157 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Some good posts IronGhost. I myself have been dabbling in Ouija boards for a few years now and i am a strong believer, moreso from the very first time I played it. THere were 5 of us, and I lived in a house that i believed to be haunted because of all the strange happenings, such as the furnace cutting in when we never had one, or lights getting dim and bright and dim again. So the first time we did the Ouija we were going along and I was recording the whole thing and about a 1/3 of the way into the session we came across a spirit who wanted to show he was there. So we Fantastically interesting! I admit a couple of goodbumps while reading your experiences, and well told. Physical manifestations while using the Ouija Board are always powerful experiences -- I'll have to dig out a couple of mine and share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella-Angelique Posted July 11, 2007 #158 Share Posted July 11, 2007 I imagine it is better to learn the spiritual world exists during life rather than remain in total ignorance of it, even if it takes getting one's ass kicked to discover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 11, 2007 #159 Share Posted July 11, 2007 Thank you for your kind words -- I've been meaning to dig through my files for another story of interest -- I've been extremely busy here, but I'll post another one soon. I remember this incredible Ouija session with the "love beings" but I just have to locate it, and then re-type in in here from our hand-written notebooks. That last one about Stu and Goose, was hilarious and alot of fun. I think levity can help alot here...Thanks JN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeyondDeath Posted July 12, 2007 #160 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Ouija Boards? I suppose we should all go to the spirit realm and talk to ghosts and send them to the great beyond with spirit sabers. Nonsensical rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 12, 2007 #161 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I imagine it is better to learn the spiritual world exists during life rather than remain in total ignorance of it, even if it takes getting one's ass kicked to discover it. Could not have said it better myself.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l31ade Posted July 12, 2007 #162 Share Posted July 12, 2007 dont say that a ouija board is fake cause its not.. my cousin was messing around with one one day and she said "give me a sign" and it started in flames... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGhost Posted July 13, 2007 #163 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Okay, here is a very long session with the Ouija Board that I will call “unusual” and I’m sure you will agree. The session was conducted with my cousin Stephan, who is a citizen of Poland, and who was visiting me here in America at the time. I’m not sure if it makes any difference, but in the first part of this session the questions were asked in the Polish language, which I speak somewhat, but which of course, is Stephan’s primary language. I was interested is conducting a session in a language other than English because I was curious to see if any entity on “the other side” would answer in Polish or English. For this reason, neither Stephan or I were blindfolded. As it turns out, the beings we contacted answered in English. Also, and I’m not sure if this is significant, Stephan is now a professional Zen Monk, but before that, he earned his Ph.D, is physics, and was an expert on the process of melting plastics. For your convenience, I will use only English here. At this session, about 8 or 9 people were present, and our good friend Darcy agreed to sit by with notebook and act as recorder. Also for your convenience, all answers from the Ouija Board entities will be in ALL-CAPS! Session Opening: Greetings! We are extremely curious beings who live in physical existence on a planet we call Earth! We seek a conversation with friendly, highly intelligent and advance beings. OPENING ANSWER: LOVE! LOVE! LOVE! WE ARE OVERJOYED TO MEET OUR FELLOW MANIFESTATIONS IN LOVE! Question: Thank you, and greetings! Who are you? ANSWER: WE ARE LOVE! Question: Do you have a name, and why do you say “we”? ANSWER: WE ARE LOVE! Question: Love? Is that your name? ANSWER: LOVE! LOVE! LOVE! WE ARE LOVE! Question: Do we speak with multiple beings, or just one being? ANSWER: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS LOVE! Question: Okay. We get the impression that you are not an individual, but a kind of group mind centered around the concept of love? Is that correct? ANSWER: WE ARE LOVE! Question: How many are you? ANSWER: MANY, MANY. WE ARE LOVE! Question: So your existence is all about love? Do you do anything else? ANSWER: WE MANIFEST LOVE! LOVE IS THE ALL! Question: How would you define love? ANSWER: LOVE IS THE ALL! WE ARE EAGER TO LEARN ABOUT YOUR LOVE! TELL US ABOUT LOVE IN YOUR WORLD! WILL YOU SHARE YOUR LOVING EXISTENCE? Question: Certainly. We also highly regard love here on Earth. What specifically do you want to know? ANSWER: HOW DO YOU LOVE? Question: A profound question! It is also a difficult question. We love in many different ways. For example, in our physical existence, we make distinctions between ourselves based on something called sex. Our species is basically divided into two different sexes, which are discrete categories based on biology, although both categories are fully human beings. Human beings are what we call ourselves. Anyway, the different sexes are primarily bound to each other by love. Love causes us to cling to one another, and thereby, continue our species, among other things. This is just one example of love in our world. ANSWER: WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING .... (Note: At this point, the love beings started saying “We are shimmering” over and over again, and we had no idea as to what this meant. We didn’t want to sit there all night watching the oracle spell out “We are shimmering” so we tried to break in by asking more questions, but it took several tries before we finally broke the shimmering spell.) Question: What do you mean when you say that you are shimmering? ANSWER: TO LEARN NEW THINGS ABOUT LOVE DRIVES US TO ECSTASY! TO SHIMMER IS TO EXPRESS OUR OVERWHELMING JOY AT THE AMAZING WONDER OF LOVE! TELL US MORE ABOUT HOW LOVE MANIFESTS IN YOUR UNIVERSE! Question: Will this cause you to start shimmering again? ANSWER: WE SHIMMER THE JOY OF LOVE! Question: We don’t blame you. Well, we also identify different kinds of love, which are not based on sexual identity, but rather on our love for many things, such as all human beings, other species of beings which we call animals, and we even love other things, like our beautiful planet, and much more. Some separate love into two broad categories, which we call Eros and Agape. Eros is a love that involves the physical process of reproduction, while Agape is a more general, and some say, higher kind of love, such as a love for all humanity, but not involving sex. ANSWER: WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING ... (Note: As I suspected, the further information I provided about love caused the Love Beings to go off on a nonstop “shimmering” jag, which we could not break -- we didn’t know what to do, but then, suddenly, the session took a strange new twist. What happened was this: Darcy, our Ouija stenographer, became suddenly overwhelmed with emotion -- surprising us all. She burst into tears and ran into another room in my house and closed the door. I could hear her sobbing heavily on the other side of the door. I finally convinced her to let me in to find out what was wrong. To make a very long story short, here was the problem: The thing about Darcy is that she is fantastically beautiful woman, with Hollywood good looks, luxurious raven-black hair that tumbles to her shoulders, and stunning green eyes -- but, who, nevertheless, was extremely unlucky in her love life. At the time of this session, she was 36 years old and unmarried. The pattern of her love life was one she describes as “serial monogamy.” In other words, Darcy had no shortage of boyfriends and relationships, but none of them ever lasted, and her heart had been bitterly broken many times. She had even been engaged two or three times, but never made it to the alter. The pattern was always the same: Darcy would meet a man and fall madly in love. She and her new love interest would experience the intense euphoria of a new love relationship, and she would completely lose herself in it. But then the relationship would always cool off, and end is a bitter break-up. In short, Darcy had been searching for her “soul mate” all her life, only to experience a long and agonizing string of painful disappointments, each time resulting in intense emotional pain, loneliness and feelings of worthlessness. Finding that “perfect love” was Darcy’s life-long obsession, yet, it seems it was the one thing she could not have. I suspected the way this Ouija session was playing out was no accident. I theorized that even though Darcy herself was not at the Ouija Board with Stephan and I, her consciousness was deeply influencing the session as or recorder, and may have been instrumental in contacting the Love Beings, since her obsession was love. A plan immediately presented itself: Because we had apparently made contact with what are possibly the ultimate experts on the subject of love -- wouldn’t it be great if the Love Beings could once and for all solve Darcy’s problem and offer her a solution to her life-long quest for lasting love? I suggested to Darcy that we ask the Love Beings to help her with her problem and she agreed very eagerly -- however, she did not want all the other people that were observing our session to listen in -- which is totally understandable. Again, to make a long story short, I requested that all others leave because we had decided that we were going to move the session into some very sensitive territory. Of course, this was like cat nip to everyone, and they protested vociferously. They wanted to stay. they knew we were onto to something big -- but I managed to get everyone kicked out so we could let the Love Beings counsel Darcy on her love life. When we finally returned to the Ouija Board -- which was about an hour later -- the love beings were still shimmering, but we finally managed to get them to stop and talk to us by tempting with the news that we had fantastic new revelations to reveal about love. I knew this would be like catnip to them! And so the session continues:) Question: Love Beings, with us here is a dear friend who has problems with the force of love, and she seeks your aid. Our friend, Darcy, seems to be suffering from a kind of dysfunction in her ability to love. Can you offer her help? ANSWER: WE ENTHUSIASTICALLY AGREE TO GIVE DARCY ALL OUR LOVE AND HELP! Question: Wonderful! (Note: We then described Darcy’s situation in some detail, and asked for a solution to Darcy’s serial monogamy.) ANSWER: PLEASE TELL US, DARCY, HOW MANY LOVE CONSTRUCTS HAVE YOU CREATED? (Note: By this we assumed that the Love Beings wanted to know how many broken relationships Darcy had suffered. Darcy answered without a hesitation. She said that she had suffered 14 broken relationships in her lifetime. So we told the Love Beings that Darcy had 14 “love constructs”). ANSWER: WHY IS THIS A PROBLEM? THIS IS SO MUCH WONDERFUL LOVE. YOU ARE A LOVING BEING, DARCY! WE LOVE YOU! (Note: Darcy began to weep softly at this, but very much wanted to continue.) Question: Well, it’s a problem because each of these 14 love constructs have dissolved, leaving no love behind, but only a lack of love. ANSWER: THIS IS NOT SO! DARCY IS A BEING OF GREAT LOVE, A GREAT ARTISTS OF LOVE! SHE HAS CREATED 14 LOVE CONSTRUCTS, EACH OF WHICH REMAINS TO THIS DAY AND ARE A SHIMMERING TESTAMENT TO HER GREAT CAPACITY TO CREATE LOVE! Question: Could you explain what you mean by this? ANSWER: LOVE CAN NEVER BE DISSOLVED ONCE CREATED. LOVE IS UNBREAKABLE ENERGY! EACH OF DARCY’S LOVE CONSTRUCTS EXIST IN FORM, AND REMAIN IN THE UNIVERSE, ATTACHED TO HER, AND ARE A SHINING TRIBUTE TO HER ABILITY TO PRODUCE LOVE! DARCY IS A VERY GREAT BEING! Question: Yes, but Darcy has no love in her life now. She lives alone and without love. ANSWER: IMPOSSIBLE! DARCY IS BUILDING A MULTIFACETED CONSTRUCT OF LOVE! IT IS A DAZZLING TRIBUTE TO LOVE, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING ... Question: Please forego your shimmering and you will be rewarded with more information about love! ANSWER: PLEASE CONTINUE! Question: Let us try to explain more completely. On our planet, we place particular value on a certain kind of love. The kind of love we are talking about involves two human beings who form a love construct between them, and then maintain that singular love construct for the duration of their existence, exclusive of other physical beings -- for that particular kind of love. They may yet have love for others, such as their children, which are subsets of the primary love construct consisting of two individuals who share love. However, the singularity love construct created by two human beings who love each other exclusively for the duration of their physical existence is of premium value in our existence. It is this singularity love construct that Darcy seeks, and now wishes to add it to her fine 14-part love construct as a crowing achievement. Can you suggest a solution? ANSWER: WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING .... (As I suspected, our description of a lasting love between just two people drove the Love Beings into intense paroxysms of shimmering, which took a very long time for Stephan and I to break, and we were starting to get exhausted from this already long session. Yet, Darcy was now extremely thirsty for advice from the Love Beings, and I think if we would have tried to quit at this point, she would have stabbed us both to death with a kitchen knife.) Question: Love Beings, please tell help our friend Darcy. Can she form a singular, lasting love construct? ANSWER: DARCY HAS ALREADY COMPLETED MOST OF NECESSARY WORK. IF SHE WISHES A LOVE SINGULARITY CONSTRUCT, SHE HAS ONLY TO PUT HER POLYHEDRON OF LOVE TO WORK FOR HERSELF. Question: How can this be accomplished? ANSWER: WE INSTRUCT DARCY TO GATHER HER 14 LOVE CONSTRUCT PARTNERS AND POSITION THEM TOGETHER. SHE WAS ALSO NEED THE ASSISTANCE OF AN EXISTING SINGULARITY LOVE CONSTRUCT -- IN YOUR CASE, THIS IS APPARENTLY TWO BEINGS OF YOUR SEXES WHO HAVE MAINTAINED A LOVE SINGULARITY CONSTRUCT FOR THE DURATION OF THEIR LOVING ACTIVITY. INSTRUCT DARCY TO PLACE THE SINGULARITY LOVE CONSTRUCT IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION, AND POSITION HER 14 LOVE CONSTRUCT PARTNERS AROUND THEM. DARCY SHOULD THEN PLACE HERSELF IN THE CENTER WITH THE TWO BEING OF THE SINGULARITY LOVE CONSTRUCT. SHE SHOULD POSITION HERSELF IN BETWEEN THE TWO BEINGS OF SINGULARITY. FROM THIS POSITION, SHE SHOULD THEN INSTRUCT HER 14 LOVE CONSTRUCT PARTNERS TO SHIFT THEIR POSITIONS UNTIL SHE FEELS THE POLYHEDRON OF LOVE COME INTO SYNCHRONIZATION. WITH YOU WE SENSE A BEING OF EXTRAORDINARY CONSCIOUSNESS. DARCY SHOULD MATCH THE FORM OF CONSCIOUSNESS USED BY THIS BEING AS SHE TUNES AND MANIPULATES HER LOVE POLYHEDRON CONSTRUCT. SHE WILL SOON COME INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE LATTICES OF HER LOVE CONSTRUCT, AND BECOME PERFECTLY CENTERED IN LOVE. ONCE ACCOMPLISHED, DARCY WILL REALIZE THE LOVE SINGULARITY SHE DESIRES! Question: This being of “extraordinary consciousness.” Who is this? ANSWER: IT IS THE BEING WHOM WITH YOU COOPERATE IN COMMUNICATION WITH US. (Note: So the beings seemed to be say that my cousin, Stephan, who as a Zen monk, should teach Darcy how to condition her mind with Zen meditation. Stephan speculated that the mode of consciousness the Love Beings were referring to was the alpha state of the brain -- experienced meditators who have been studied in a laboratory setting have been shown to emit alpha wave patterns in their brains.) Question: So what you seem to be saying, Love Beings, is that Darcy should find a couple who have maintained an exclusive loving relationship for many years, sit with them, and then have her 14 previous lovers surround them, and then attempt to fine tune a kind of psychic love polyhedron as she puts herself into a meditative state? ANSWER: IT WOULD BE A LOVE CONSTRUCT OF GREAT WONDER AND DARCY WOULD KNOW GREAT LOVE! (Note: At this point Darcy, Stephan and I paused and contemplated the remarkable information we had just received in silence. I could sense, however, that Darcy was smoldering inside, and seemed tall but READY TO implodE. I imagine she was thinking about the crazy idea of calling up the 14 men who had been her lovers over that last 15 or 20 years, and thinking about what it would be like to have them all in one room. Suddenly, Darcy jumped up from her chair, stepped toward me and Stephan and then violently tipped over the small table that sat between us with the Ouija Board on top of it. The board and the oracle went flying. Darcy threw her pencil and notepad against the wall and stormed out of the house, weeping. Stephan maintained his wonderful Zen calm, quietly picked up the table and Ouija Board and set them back in place. Despite the disastrous result of the evening, Stephan felt we should thank the Love Beings for doing their best, and in good faith, he believed. So we puts our finger tips back on the oracle.) Question: Thank you, Love Beings! We think it is wonderful that there are Being who are dedicated to love! Farewell! ANSWER: WE ARE SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING, SHIMMERING, WE ARE SHIMMERING .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stang56k Posted July 13, 2007 #164 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Nice read again IronGhost, never disappointing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 13, 2007 #165 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Great words Iron, but what happened to Darcy, did she find love? JN-- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 13, 2007 #166 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Iron, you are a trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalienan Posted July 13, 2007 #167 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Iron, that was great reading...I hope you'll have a continuance on Darcy and her love life....I feel like I'm reading a soap opera.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 13, 2007 #168 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Iron, that was great reading...I hope you'll have a continuance on Darcy and her love life....I feel like I'm reading a soap opera.. LOL But he never finalizes his stories. OMG Poor Darcy.. My son said if she is that hot, he will hook up with her.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalienan Posted July 13, 2007 #169 Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) LOL But he never finalizes his stories. OMG Poor Darcy.. My son said if she is that hot, he will hook up with her.. Tell your son to go for it... :He might be number 15 in poor Darcy's life... Edited July 13, 2007 by goalienan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boorite Posted July 13, 2007 #170 Share Posted July 13, 2007 A plan immediately presented itself: Because we had apparently made contact with what are possibly the ultimate experts on the subject of love -- wouldn’t it be great if the Love Beings could once and for all solve Darcy’s problem and offer her a solution to her life-long quest for lasting love? What a terrific idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldethyl Posted July 13, 2007 #171 Share Posted July 13, 2007 I love it when a plan comes together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 13, 2007 #172 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Tell your son to go for it... :He might be number 15 in poor Darcy's life... He said "Story of my life." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allaroundjulia Posted July 13, 2007 #173 Share Posted July 13, 2007 just saw this demon on youtube. thought it were real xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNormal Posted July 13, 2007 #174 Share Posted July 13, 2007 just saw this demon on youtube. thought it were real xx NO its not real!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bLu3 de 3n3rgy Posted July 13, 2007 #175 Share Posted July 13, 2007 lol Iron that was funny....anymore sessions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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