Guest Lottie Posted July 3, 2007 #1 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Eight people arrested in connection with failed car bombings in Glasgow and London all have links with the National Health Service, the BBC has learned. Seven are believed to be doctors or medical students, while one formerly worked as a laboratory technician. Australian media have identified a man arrested at Brisbane airport as Dr Mohammed Haneef, 27. Two men have been arrested in Blackburn under terror laws but police have not confirmed a link with the car bombs. The pair were detained on an industrial estate and are being held at a police station in Lancashire on suspicion of offences under the Terrorism Act 2000. Rest of story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6265500.stm ....And I thought the NHS couldn't get any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hill Posted July 3, 2007 #2 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Yeah Lottie..it's all pretty unbelievable and yet at the same time strangely predictable. Well educated young men, with every opportunity given to them that this country can offer and what do they do? Fill up cars with.. petrol,gas and nail bombs and drive them into buildings... Gordon Brown has issued a warning to the cabinet- not to mention the words Islam...muslims and terrorist in the same context. Ok... great.. So, we're now all suppose to believe that these well educated men..just all decided to collectively go 'insane' at the same time. Just delaying the inevitable realisation huh Gordon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted July 3, 2007 #3 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Why are we in this handbasket and where are we going. as much as im against the war and the american govt and english govt. its time to get tough with these motherfokers. no more pc. time to stand up and do onto others as they would do onto you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
british_patriot Posted July 3, 2007 #4 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Why are we in this handbasket and where are we going. as much as im against the war and the american govt and english govt. its time to get tough with these motherfokers. no more pc. time to stand up and do onto others as they would do onto you. I give up trying to educate this fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mule Posted July 3, 2007 #5 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I'm STILL scratching my head wondering why these clowns think they can succeed where the Irish failed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ships-cat Posted July 3, 2007 #6 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) I'm STILL scratching my head wondering why these clowns think they can succeed where the Irish failed... The IRA (and it's offshoots) had a potential terrorist recruiting pool of a few million people (e.g. the population of Eire, with a few fellow travelers from other nations). Their funding was limited to the same pool of people, plus a lot from NORAID. (gee, thanks America), and a bit of mischeive from the old Soviet Union and it's satellites (Libyan training camps and arms supplies etc etc... oh gosh... a Muslim connection - what a suprise). The Caliphatists have a potential recruiting pool of several billion people, backed by billions of dollars in cash, weapons, training and logistical assistance from several Oil-rich middle eastern states. (coff coff Saudi coff coff). Oh , plus CAIR in the USA, bits of the Democratic party, and lots of organisations in the UK. (Muslim Parliament for Britain, Muslim Council, the Labour Party <just kidding folks> ). These "clowns" are a condiderably larger threat than the IRA, Shining Path, Bahda Meinhoff gang, ETA etc combined. Only the RaELAS are more of a threat. So I'd urge you all not to get complacent. Meow Purr. Edited July 3, 2007 by ships-cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted July 3, 2007 #7 Share Posted July 3, 2007 (edited) This is what you get when you hire docters from other countries while sacking the docters from your own country... Edit It's opening your doors to other countries until all your hospitals are full of the people who wish to take down your country / or turn your country into a theocracy by making the country fall to it's knees via it's much needed and vital organisations. I have nothing against other countries, I don't make it my business to, but patients are at risk. Where there are two terrorist docters, there will be more who share their ideologies in the same profession. It's not like you can give them a questionaire to see if they're terrorists or run background checks on them - these two docters never did any offense before the attempted bombings/murders. Edited July 3, 2007 by Chokmah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted July 3, 2007 #8 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I give up trying to educate this fool. You listen here fool, the british empire, united kingdom. common wealth. exists only in the mind of the english. we dont reckgonize any of them ok you call it what ever you want, its england or nothing as far as a large majorty of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, are concerned. and i could name some other places where you planted your flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted July 3, 2007 #9 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You listen here fool, the british empire, united kingdom. common wealth. exists only in the mind of the english. we dont reckgonize any of them ok you call it what ever you want, its england or nothing as far as a large majorty of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, are concerned. and i could name some other places where you planted your flag. We havent really planted our St.Georges flag anywhere, it's pretty much been the Union Jack - that's the flag for the United Kingdom - So, where ever "we" planted that flag. So did you . The Queen (no matter how much I hate the monarchy anyway) has no political power over the Common Wealth - it's just a symbolic figure head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted July 3, 2007 #10 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Does this mean they'll be struck off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted July 3, 2007 #11 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You listen here fool, the british empire, united kingdom. common wealth. exists only in the mind of the english. we dont reckgonize any of them ok you call it what ever you want, its england or nothing as far as a large majorty of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, are concerned. and i could name some other places where you planted your flag. I read the other day that if scotland, wales & ireland were independant & self sufficient, the English tax payer would be paying 16 pence in the pound as opposed to 22 pence in the pound. Give them all independance from us I say, then perhaps i could start saving some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eden grange Posted July 3, 2007 #12 Share Posted July 3, 2007 What I find highly disturbing about the situation is that its possible that there are still many more people working within Hospitals involved in these attack. What if they used more devious schemes to attack the public? Being in employment in the N.H.S they could course havok, they work in powerful positions and some of them could literaly hold our lives in there hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
british_patriot Posted July 3, 2007 #13 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You listen here fool, the british empire, united kingdom. common wealth. exists only in the mind of the english. we dont reckgonize any of them ok you call it what ever you want, its england or nothing as far as a large majorty of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, are concerned. and i could name some other places where you planted your flag. Lol! Who even mentioned the British Empire and the Common Wealth? I'm merely stating the obvious fact that it is the British government, made up of English, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Now run along and keep destroying Big Ben you made out of legos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hetrodoxly Posted July 3, 2007 #14 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You listen here fool, the british empire, united kingdom. common wealth. exists only in the mind of the english. we dont reckgonize any of them ok you call it what ever you want, its england or nothing as far as a large majorty of Irish, Scottish, Welsh, are concerned. and i could name some other places where you planted your flag. Louie your weird man, where about in Ireland are you from? Commonwealth countries, no one forces them to be a member, no one forces scotland or Wales to be in the Union, personally i wish England would leave the union. Antigua and Barbuda 1981 St. John's &&&&&&&&&&081000.&&&&0081,000 Australia 1931 Canberra &&&&&&&021000000.&&&&0021,000,000 Bahamas 1973 Nassau &&&&&&&&&0319000.&&&&00319,000 Bangladesh 1972 Dhaka &&&&&&0139215000.&&&&00139,215,000 Barbados 1966 Bridgetown &&&&&&&&&0269000.&&&&00269,000 Belize 1981 Belmopan &&&&&&&&&0264000.&&&&00264,000 Botswana 1966 Gaborone &&&&&&&&01769000.&&&&001,769,000 Brunei 1984 Bandar Seri Begawan &&&&&&&&&0366000.&&&&00366,000 Cameroon 1995 Yaounde (constitutional) Douala (economic) &&&&&&&016038000.&&&&0016,038,000 Canada 1931 Ottawa &&&&&&&031958000.&&&&0031,958,000 Cyprus 1961 Nicosia &&&&&&&&&0826000.&&&&00826,000 Dominica 1978 Roseau &&&&&&&&&&079000.&&&&0079,000 Fiji 1 1970 Suva &&&&&&&&&0841000.&&&&00841,000 Gambia 1965 Banjul &&&&&&&&01478000.&&&&001,478,000 Ghana 1957 Accra &&&&&&&021664000.&&&&0021,664,000 Grenada 1974 St. George's &&&&&&&&&0102000.&&&&00102,000 Guyana 1966 Georgetown &&&&&&&&&0750000.&&&&00750,000 India 1947 New Delhi &&&&&01087124000.&&&&001,087,124,000 Jamaica 1962 Kingston &&&&&&&&02639000.&&&&002,639,000 Kenya 1963 Nairobi &&&&&&&033467000.&&&&0033,467,000 Kiribati 1979 Tarawa &&&&&&&&&&097000.&&&&0097,000 Lesotho 1966 Maseru &&&&&&&&01798000.&&&&001,798,000 Malawi 1964 Lilongwe &&&&&&&012608000.&&&&0012,608,000 Malaysia 1957 Kuala Lumpur &&&&&&&024894000.&&&&0024,894,000 Maldives 1982 Malé &&&&&&&&&0321000.&&&&00321,000 Malta 1964 Valletta &&&&&&&&&0400000.&&&&00400,000 Mauritius 1968 Port Louis &&&&&&&&01233000.&&&&001,233,000 Mozambique 1995 Maputo &&&&&&&019424000.&&&&0019,424,000 Namibia 1990 Windhoek &&&&&&&&02009000.&&&&002,009,000 Nauru2 1968 Yaren (unofficial) &&&&&&&&&&013000.&&&&0013,000 New Zealand 1931 Wellington &&&&&&&&04109000.&&&&004,109,000 Nigeria3 1960 Abuja &&&&&&0128709000.&&&&00128,709,000 Pakistan4 1947 Islamabad &&&&&&0154794000.&&&&00154,794,000 Papua New Guinea 1975 Port Moresby &&&&&&&&05772000.&&&&005,772,000 Saint Kitts and Nevis 1983 Basseterre &&&&&&&&&&042000.&&&&0042,000 Saint Lucia 1979 Castries &&&&&&&&&0159000.&&&&00159,000 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1979 Kingstown &&&&&&&&&0118000.&&&&00118,000 Samoa 1970 Apia &&&&&&&&&0184000.&&&&00184,000 Seychelles 1976 Victoria &&&&&&&&&&080000.&&&&0080,000 Sierra Leone 1961 Freetown &&&&&&&&05336000.&&&&005,336,000 Singapore 1965 Singapore &&&&&&&&04237000.&&&&004,237,000 Solomon Islands 1978 Honiara &&&&&&&&&0466000.&&&&00466,000 South Africa5 1931 Pretoria (executive) Bloemfontein (judicial) Cape Town (legislative) &&&&&&&047208000.&&&&0047,208,000 Sri Lanka 1948 Sri Jayawardhanapura Kotte (constitutional) Colombo (economic) &&&&&&&020570000.&&&&0020,570,000 Swaziland 1968 Mbabane &&&&&&&&01034000.&&&&001,034,000 Tanzania 1961 Dar es Salaam,000 Tonga 1970 Nuku'alofa Trinidad and Tobago Tuvalu 1978 Funafuti Uganda 1962 Kampala United Kingdom 1931 London Vanuatu 1980 Port Vila Zambia 1964 Lusaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lottie Posted July 4, 2007 #15 Share Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) Being in employment in the N.H.S they could course havok, they work in powerful positions and some of them could literaly hold our lives in there hands. That thought crossed my mind too, they could have completely abused their position. Pillars of the community, people that trust them with their lives. Harold Shipman springs to mind... It concerns me of the what consequences this could cause. Having this knowledge how far the general public are going to go in terms of keeping away from certain Medical staff/Doctors who could be completely innocent, due to what has happened here. It all is beginning to feel a little bit 1937... Edited July 4, 2007 by Lottie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted July 4, 2007 #16 Share Posted July 4, 2007 What I find highly disturbing about the situation is that its possible that there are still many more people working within Hospitals involved in these attack. What if they used more devious schemes to attack the public? Being in employment in the N.H.S they could course havok, they work in powerful positions and some of them could literaly hold our lives in there hands. From what some people are saying I doubt they wanted to kill any old person. The bombs were designed to kill women, more like "immoral" women compared to the customs of their religion where women are treated like dirt. From Hitchens' article: Only at the tail end of the coverage was it admitted that a car bomb might have been parked outside a club in Piccadilly because it was "ladies night" and that this explosion might have been designed to lure people into to the street, the better to be burned and shredded by the succeeding explosion from the second car-borne cargo of gasoline and nails. Since we have known since 2004 that a near-identical attack on a club called the Ministry of Sound was proposed in just these terms, on the grounds that dead "slags" or "****s" would be regretted by nobody, a certain amount of trouble might have been saved by assuming the obvious. The murderers did not just want body parts in general but female body parts in particular. Source Don't know how much weight it holds but it would seem to be a better motive for a religious attack then just killing random patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt_Ripley Posted July 4, 2007 #17 Share Posted July 4, 2007 (edited) LONDON, July 3 — All eight people arrested in the aftermath of two bungled car bombings here last week are from the medical profession, a British police official said Tuesday, rattling a national heath service that has long relied on foreign doctors to fill its understaffed hospitals. A burned man who had been arrested at the Glasgow airport on Saturday was identified Tuesday as Dr. Khalid Ahmed, the driver of the vehicle that rammed the airport entrance. He was under guard in a hospital near Glasgow. The seven men are physicians, according to the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, while the lone woman, the wife of one, is a laboratory technician. The police are now working to unravel links and prior contacts within this far-flung expatriate medical circle. For the British public, the prospect of highly educated professionals as terror suspects is a chilling departure from the home-grown Muslim terrorists, many with family roots in Pakistan, who have been implicated in previous conspiracies here. It may also prompt a debate over whether Britain’s health system should have tightened its regulations for hiring foreign doctors before last year, when it was possible for doctors to move here and practice without a work permit, provided they established their medical credentials. “Clearly, it will be debated,” said Soroosh Firoozan, an Iranian-born cardiologist who practices near Oxford. “There has already been a bit of a move to exclude foreign doctors from training in the U.K.” http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/world/eu...nyt&emc=rss Edited July 4, 2007 by Lottie Quoted whole article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eden grange Posted July 4, 2007 #18 Share Posted July 4, 2007 From what some people are saying I doubt they wanted to kill any old person. The bombs were designed to kill women, more like "immoral" women compared to the customs of their religion where women are treated like dirt. From Hitchens' article: Only at the tail end of the coverage was it admitted that a car bomb might have been parked outside a club in Piccadilly because it was "ladies night" and that this explosion might have been designed to lure people into to the street, the better to be burned and shredded by the succeeding explosion from the second car-borne cargo of gasoline and nails. Since we have known since 2004 that a near-identical attack on a club called the Ministry of Sound was proposed in just these terms, on the grounds that dead "slags" or "****s" would be regretted by nobody, a certain amount of trouble might have been saved by assuming the obvious. The murderers did not just want body parts in general but female body parts in particular. Source Don't know how much weight it holds but it would seem to be a better motive for a religious attack then just killing random patients. Yes but...Ladies nights mean free entrance for women however this obviously drags out more men hunting the women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kratos__ Posted July 4, 2007 #19 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Yes but...Ladies nights mean free entrance for women however this obviously drags out more men hunting the women Well killing immoral men for sleeping around with someone not their wives or slaves is against islam as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted July 4, 2007 #20 Share Posted July 4, 2007 LONDON, July 3 — All eight people arrested in the aftermath of two bungled car bombings here last week are from the medical profession, a British police official said Tuesday, rattling a national heath service that has long relied on foreign doctors to fill its understaffed hospitals. Maybe if the NHS stopped sacking British docters for the cheaper foreign docters, we could avert this problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Serenity Posted July 4, 2007 #21 Share Posted July 4, 2007 What's NHS? Like I said in another thread. But they've been bagging these guys quickly/fast. It would have taken us longer in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted July 4, 2007 #22 Share Posted July 4, 2007 What's NHS? Like I said in another thread. But they've been bagging these guys quickly/fast. It would have taken us longer in the states. National Health Service. It's payed for via tax, making it available to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Serenity Posted July 5, 2007 #23 Share Posted July 5, 2007 National Health Service. It's payed for via tax, making it available to everyone. Thanks for that, Chokmah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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