New analyses bolster central tenets of evolution theory

When scientists announced last month they had determined the exact order of all 3 billion bits of genetic code that go into making a chimpanzee, it was no surprise that the sequence was more than 96 percent identical to the human genome. Charles Darwin had deduced more than a century ago that chimps were among humans' closest cousins.

But decoding chimpanzees' DNA allowed scientists to do more than just refine their estimates of how similar humans and chimps are.

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Ignoramuses say that they only believe in what they see, nothing else, yet, they believe in all Darwin’s absurd fantasies. Until now, no one has seen and no one has proven Darwin’s suppositions.

We can state with certainty that not even one scientist has ever witnessed how the first human being came forth. Yet, they talk with so much self-sufficiency, as if they were present in the Miocene Epoch, as if they had seen the Anthropoids appearing there in the Quaternary epoch.

Ignoramuses enthrone their marvelous “gods”, namely: the Lemurs and Mandrills (baboons), they place them as sublime Prosimians from which (they assert) present humanoids descended. Has this been confirmed by them? Have they, at some time, seen it? Never! So, where is their foundation? Is their foundation resting upon fantasies that they have never seen? Are they not perhaps the ones who state that they do not believe but only what they see? Then, why do they believe in what they have never observed? Is it not perhaps a contradiction? Are these ignoramuses not perhaps contradictory within their depth?

If we did not know about the possibility of developing certain capacities and faculties of a transcendental type in the human brain, it would be inexplicable how this present humanoids came into existence. But thanks our superior faculties we know how to study the history of nature and of the humanity; a history that lies hidden within the very depth of the memories of everything that is, has been and shall be.

Even if you don’t believe, the truth is that present human species is not in any way made up of real human beings, it is true, no lie. However, we are in agreement with profane Anthropologists only on the issue of the origin of the intellectual animal.

The intellectual animal comes from the Quaternary Epoch or at the end of the Tertiary Epoch. This is something that we cannot deny in any way.

First of all, it is convenient to make a complete differentiation between a human being and an intellectual animal. The true human being existed before the Carboniferous Epoch and before Mesozoic times.

This true human being lived during the epoch of the reptiles. Unfortunately, some authentic human beings degenerated terribly at the end of the Tertiary Epoch, during the Miocene. They absurdly mixed themselves with some beasts of nature. Several gigantic simians were the outcome of such a mixture; such species in turn, mixed themselves with other subhuman beasts. Thus, the outcomes of all of this were the simians that we know of and the evolution of certain humanoids.

These humanoids continued reproducing themselves incessantly during the Quaternary Epoch. Subsequently, they continued reproducing themselves incessantly and they are the humanoids of this epoch in which we live. Thus this present humanity is a mixture of authentic human beings with beasts of nature.

Then the Race of Chimpanzee is in effect catching up to present day humans , thus explaining thier 96% identical genes? Or are chimpanzees the result of reverse evolution , meaning they lost thier cell phones and computers?

It means we have the same ancestors....

Then the Race of Chimpanzee is in effect catching up to present day humans , thus explaining thier 96% identical genes? Or are chimpanzees the result of reverse evolution , meaning they lost thier cell phones and computers?

Eventually, present day humanoids will be eaten by the wrath of nature!

Eventually, present day humanoids will be eaten by the wrath of nature!

Yes nature and not some imaginary God.

The good thing about evolution is it can predict things and later on with the data we get from genomes and see that evolution predicted this to be true and so it is...

Evolution is a very solid theory and even tho parts maybe questionable it doesn't changed the fact that evolution did occur, Details and orders could be wrong... but evolution in general is correct. This isn't really a debate among scientists, only the uneducated.

Edited September 28, 2005 by whoa182

Then the Race of Chimpanzee is in effect catching up to present day humans , thus explaining thier 96% identical genes?

No, not at all. Evolutionary speaking, Chimpanzee's are just as evolved as us... the difference is in which way they evolved... we evolved to have intelligence, rather than other things that other animals have, such as speed, strength, agility, etc. Because of our intelligence, we're set apart from the rest of the animals, and are more advanced technologically and intellectually than them, but not necessairly biologically. Im not sure if that makes sense or not.

Think of it this way, you have a brother... he is not identical to you, but since he's related to you, he had a certain percentage of genes that are... lets say 96%. He also has an IQ 5 points lower than you. Does that mean he's less evolved than you?

Or are chimpanzees the result of reverse evolution , meaning they lost thier cell phones and computers?

No such thing as reverse evolution.

If you knew some of the people in my town you may change your mind STIX! LOL's

Seriously, even some scientist's marvel at the complexity of our world and except the possibility of Divine Guidance or Design. I as an agnostic dont feel I or any person is knowledgeable enough to know the secretes of the whole of the Universe. AND TO SAY YOU OR ANY ONE DOSE IS an Arrogant presumption on thier part. But thats just me.

No such thing as reverse evolution.

Where did you come up with this? Evolution is still a theory (which I have come to believe), But we don't have many facts, if any to prove its actually happening. Now you claim theres no such thing as reserve evolution?

Ignoramuses enthrone their marvelous “gods”, namely: the Lemurs and Mandrills (baboons), they place them as sublime Prosimians from which (they assert) present humanoids descended. Has this been confirmed by them? Have they, at some time, seen it? Never!

I love this. When people reply with such skeptical thoughts about human scientific breakthroughs or even studies, End up believing in a God or Gods. Gets all icky.

Edited September 28, 2005 by smallpackage

Where did you come up with this? Evolution is still a theory (which I have come to believe), But we don't have many facts, if any to prove its actually happening. Now you claim theres no such thing as reserve evolution?

The scientific term "theory" holds much more weight than the layman's version. It is right below a fact, and way above a hypothesis. In fact, gravity happens to be a theory, yet I doubt that you'd say that we're still ncertain of its existence.

Proof-wise, we're pretty well set. Fossils, genetic studies, genome sequencing... No shortage of proof here

The scientific term "theory" holds much more weight than the layman's version. It is right below a fact, and way above a hypothesis. In fact, gravity happens to be a theory, yet I doubt that you'd say that we're still ncertain of its existence.

Proof-wise, we're pretty well set. Fossils, genetic studies, genome sequencing... No shortage of proof here

You're right...

What lies at the bottom of all of this subject-matter and what is behind all of these mechanist’s and evolutionist’s theories, is the impulse to combat the clergy. They are looking for a system that satisfies the mind and the heart in order to demolish the Hebraic Genesis. It is precisely a trauma, a lump within their brain caused by a reaction against a misapprehension of the biblical Adam and his famous Eve (who was made out of one of his ribs).

Atheists react automatically against the clergy’s misinterpretation of the biblical Adam and Eve. This is, in fact, the source for the ignorant theories of Darwin, Hackel and their subsequent accomplices.

So, it is not right to originate so many foolish hypotheses (that in themselves are deprived of any serious foundation) because of mental mechanical reactions against misapprehensions.

Thus, if they want to remove the lump of their brain caused by such misapprehension, it would be proper to all of them to have a comparative study of ALL religions, I repeat: ALL RELIGIONS!

AND with an open mind because minds are like parachutes; they only function when they are open.

Ignoramuses enthrone their marvelous “gods”, namely: the Lemurs and Mandrills (baboons), they place them as sublime Prosimians from which (they assert) present humanoids descended. Has this been confirmed by them? Have they, at some time, seen it? Never!

At least these ignoramuses can give a straight answer.

At least these ignoramuses have facts and evidence to build the theory on.

At least these ignoramuses can make their point without being condescending.

Loge, get over yourself; it gets really old really fast.

At least these ignoramuses can give a straight answer.

At least these ignoramuses have facts and evidence to build the theory on.

At least these ignoramuses can make their point without being condescending.

Loge, get over yourself; it gets really old really fast.

Do you mean, my approach is Old and annoying like Darwin’s theory of evolution?

Do you mean, my approach is Old and annoying like Darwin’s theory of evolution?

We mean its out dated... get a brain and stop being such a sheep.

Now you claim theres no such thing as reserve evolution?

Sure do. Whats your point?

(You better damn well be sure of what you say next, because I'm damn sure of what I'm talking about).

What lies at the bottom of all of this subject-matter and what is behind all of these mechanist’s and evolutionist’s theories, is the impulse to combat the clergy.

WRONG, its the urge for true knowledge rather then just accepting someone elses notion of reality.

They are looking for a system that satisfies the mind and the heart in order to demolish the Hebraic Genesis.

Wrong again, they are searching for the TRUE, UNBAISED origins of humanity... if it destroys "Hebraic Genesis" then it is only an effect, not a contrived expendature.

It is precisely a trauma, a lump within their brain caused by a reaction against a misapprehension of the biblical Adam and his famous Eve (who was made out of one of his ribs).

A lump within their brain? so you're implying they are abnormal? I'm afraid that notion is quite abnormal

a misapprehension of the biblical Adam and his famous Eve (who was made out of one of his ribs).

So god, the master of all creation needs a rib to create a woman? why not just *poof* create them both as equals?

Atheists react automatically against the clergy’s misinterpretation of the biblical Adam and Eve. This is, in fact, the source for the ignorant theories of Darwin, Hackel and their subsequent accomplices.

So are you labelling all scientists atheists? Doesnt the bible teach to judge not lest ye be judged? Also, I'm afraid to tell you but Darwins theory came from complete observation and was derrived completely without the influence of ANY religion... therefore it is NOT the source of the "ignorant" (again, you insult) theories of some brilliant men.

So, it is not right to originate so many foolish hypotheses (that in themselves are deprived of any serious foundation) because of mental mechanical reactions against misapprehensions.

thats just BS, you my friend are the one who is ignoring the truth

Thus, if they want to remove the lump of their brain caused by such misapprehension, it would be proper to all of them to have a comparative study of ALL religions, I repeat: ALL RELIGIONS!

Well, such studies have been conducted (to your apparant ignorance) and they have found that ALL religions carry common themes... these stories which all religions stem from are equal from a metaforical stand point... if you were to take them metaforically then you could see that there are some deep and meaningful lessons about life to be learned. Although this has not been the case, it is taken as a historical account and this is what causes all the modern day problems we see.

AND with an open mind because minds are like parachutes; they only function when they are open.

you obviously fail to realize that the people who laid down the foundations of science and the scientific method were VERY open mindend, they had to be.

Stix I did not know you had it in you!

WRONG, its the urge for true knowledge rather then just accepting someone elses notion of reality.

Right, it is the urge for true knowledge rather THAN just accepting someone’s theories (i.e. Darwin) which in their depth are nonsensical notion of reality!

Wrong again, they are searching for the TRUE, UNBAISED origins of humanity... if it destroys "Hebraic Genesis" then it is only an effect, not a contrived expendature.

True! They are searching for the TRUE UN-BASED origins of humanity... this is why they cannot destroy "Hebraic Genesis" because they are not free from alienated party affiliations or prejudices, which is only an effect of their contrived intellectual disbursement

A lump within their brain? so you're implying they are abnormal? I'm afraid that notion is quite abnormal

Yes, a lump within their brain! And I am implying they are abnormal! And I'm absolutely sure that notion for you is quite abnormal

So god, the master of all creation needs a rib to create a woman? why not just *poof* create them both as equals?

Maybe to provide support to Adam’s genetic information in the cell so that both can be capable of self-replicate people unlike you!

So are you labelling all scientists atheists? Doesnt the bible teach to judge not lest ye be judged? Also, I'm afraid to tell you but Darwins theory came from complete observation and was derrived completely without the influence of ANY religion... therefore it is NOT the source of the "ignorant" (again, you insult) theories of some brilliant men.

I am a scientist and I am not atheist! Not only the bible teaches to judge not lest ye be judged, but also all books of all religions! Also, I'm afraid but you are wrong, Darwin’s theory came from complete ignorance of the book of Genesis and was derived completely with the fanatical influence of his religion... therefore it is the outcome of the "ignorant" (again, it is nonsense) theories of few ignorant men.

Well, such studies have been conducted (to your apparant ignorance) and they have found that ALL religions carry common themes... these stories which all religions stem from are equal from a metaforical stand point... if you were to take them metaforically then you could see that there are some deep and meaningful lessons about life to be learned. Although this has not been the case, it is taken as a historical account and this is what causes all the modern day problems we see.

Well then, go and do the same research. Since, obviously this has not been the case for you!

you obviously fail to realize that the people who laid down the foundations of science and the scientific method were VERY open mindend, they had to be.

I realize that the people who laid down the foundations of true science and the true scientific method were VERY open-minded, they had to be. Unfortunately this is not the case of Darwin and his accomplices!

Loge... first off, stop insulting the opposition. It makes your own arguements seem rather barbaric. Second, were you aware that Darwin was a devout Christian, and that proposing the theory of evolution "Felt like confessing a murder"?

You reveal your own ignorance with your petty attacks on others, living and not.

Loge... first off, stop insulting the opposition. It makes your own arguements seem rather barbaric. Second, were you aware that Darwin was a devout Christian, and that proposing the theory of evolution "Felt like confessing a murder"?

You reveal your own ignorance with your petty attacks on others, living and not.

Please accept my apologies, I did not know that a devout Christian Darwin's relative was in this forum!

Sure do. Whats your point?

(You better damn well be sure of what you say next, because I'm damn sure of what I'm talking about).

Mind expressing what you're talking about then? Having a harsh attitude doesn't convince me.

Mind expressing what you're talking about then? Having a harsh attitude doesn't convince me.

I'm talking about there being no such thing as reverse evolution. Isnt that what you're talking about?

What is Loge talking about?

He doesn't make one clear statement in any of his posts. He constantly contradicts himself within sentences, and frequently misuses words.

Can anyone exlain?