UM-Bot Posted May 18, 2006 #1 Share Posted May 18, 2006 The first sequences of nuclear DNA to be taken from a Neanderthal have been reported at a US science meeting. Geneticist Svante Paabo and his team say they isolated the long segments of genetic material from a 45,000-year-old Neanderthal fossil from Croatia. The work should reveal how closely related the Neanderthal species was to modern humans, Homo sapiens. Details were presented at a conference at New York's Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory and reported by News@Nature. View: Full Article | Source: BBC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronGhost Posted May 18, 2006 #2 Share Posted May 18, 2006 This really makes me drool. I simply can't wait to see the analysis of this DNA strand. I've always liked the idea that the Neanderthal was an entirely separate species from homo sapiens. It would be almost as if there were an alien form of man on our own planet! This should help resolve the debate about whether homo sapiens and Neanderethal ever interbred -- or if they were a close enough match to be able to have children together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slurpygloop Posted May 18, 2006 #3 Share Posted May 18, 2006 This really makes me drool. I simply can't wait to see the analysis of this DNA strand. I've always liked the idea that the Neanderthal was an entirely separate species from homo sapiens. It would be almost as if there were an alien form of man on our own planet! This should help resolve the debate about whether homo sapiens and Neanderethal ever interbred -- or if they were a close enough match to be able to have children together. I always wonder about these projects, though. Not the initial integrity, but what "somebody" could do with the final results. Anyone remember Stalin's "ape army" idea? Hitler had the dream of creating "supermen" as well (and some say he used the occult to achieve it, to a degree.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted May 18, 2006 #4 Share Posted May 18, 2006 This really makes me drool. I simply can't wait to see the analysis of this DNA strand. I've always liked the idea that the Neanderthal was an entirely separate species from homo sapiens. It would be almost as if there were an alien form of man on our own planet! This should help resolve the debate about whether homo sapiens and Neanderethal ever interbred -- or if they were a close enough match to be able to have children together. I agree, I've always wondered where Neanderthal belongs in evolution... so human like, but supposedly not related... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars1102 Posted May 18, 2006 #5 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I always wonder about these projects, though. Not the initial integrity, but what "somebody" could do with the final results LOL i was thinking the same thing...when i 1st read the article i was thinking "next their gonna combine the DNA to see if humans can interbreed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora7321 Posted May 18, 2006 #6 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Ooh Ooh!! I can't wait to see what all they find. I love Jean Auel's Earth Children series. She has the different species sporadically interbreeding. I realize this is purely fiction unless proven, but I would love to see if that could have actually been possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyWeather Posted May 18, 2006 #7 Share Posted May 18, 2006 LOL i was thinking the same thing...when i 1st read the article i was thinking "next their gonna combine the DNA to see if humans can interbreed" reminds me of the film "evolutions child", very poor story line and the science behind it was stupid. but interesting film, even though it wasn't thought through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathBringer Posted May 19, 2006 #8 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Cloning time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8272 Posted May 19, 2006 #9 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Can't wait to hear pof the results. As for cloning well they did clone a spider from a amber that is millions of years old or something it lived for about a day. But the y chromosome, this could be interesting really since it could be something that could help us maybe could even be something as imunitys to ceertain diseses etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal Norway Posted May 19, 2006 #10 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Cloning time! It`s maybe a bit early to say so, maybe in around 20 years. As for cloning well they did clone a spider from a amber that is millions of years old or something it lived for about a day. They did ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickasaBrick Posted May 19, 2006 #11 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Yes..... I love the idea of a non-human creature, I guess it would be called. Let us jump start the clonig machines and create some inferior beings to make slaves out of. The idea of humans as slaves sickens me, but a non-human would be great imagine... 1. Beating it when your angry, better than beating babies. 2. Do all the jobs the ILLEGAL immigrants do, send them back to mexico. 3. Housework, after all housework sucks. 4. Oh, I almost forgot about beating it just for fun, who knows it could become a sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted May 19, 2006 #12 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Yes..... I love the idea of a non-human creature, I guess it would be called. Let us jump start the clonig machines and create some inferior beings to make slaves out of. The idea of humans as slaves sickens me, but a non-human would be great imagine... 1. Beating it when your angry, better than beating babies. 2. Do all the jobs the ILLEGAL immigrants do, send them back to mexico. 3. Housework, after all housework sucks. 4. Oh, I almost forgot about beating it just for fun, who knows it could become a sport. You're out of your mind dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickasaBrick Posted May 19, 2006 #13 Share Posted May 19, 2006 You're out of your mind dude! I thought i was being fairly rational in that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8272 Posted May 20, 2006 #14 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well as for making them salves no, because that would make us tyrants and personally i think making anyone salves or out would be wrong. As for the spider cloning it did happen it lived a day and died so i think we need to get time to make the technology we have better because at the moment we don't abnd can only have a days life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted May 20, 2006 #15 Share Posted May 20, 2006 As for cloning well they did clone a spider from a amber that is millions of years old or something it lived for about a day. could you please supply a link to the 'cloned spider'?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatWhiteHorse Posted May 20, 2006 #16 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well as for making them salves no, because that would make us tyrants and personally i think making anyone salves or out would be wrong. As for the spider cloning it did happen it lived a day and died so i think we need to get time to make the technology we have better because at the moment we don't abnd can only have a days life. Please post a link or provide further information on this spider. I have heard no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8272 Posted May 20, 2006 #17 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I don't have the extact link to were it says it was cloned and lived a day, but if you type in google spider found in amber cloned you should find it in there. Or at least there plans to clone it i tried finding it but i was told by a friend about it and researched it a bit and found a site with it on.... I'm not lying before anyone says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickasaBrick Posted May 20, 2006 #18 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well as for making them salves no, because that would make us tyrants and personally i think making anyone salves or out would be wrong. As for the spider cloning it did happen it lived a day and died so i think we need to get time to make the technology we have better because at the moment we don't abnd can only have a days life. I specifically said that humans as slaves sicken me. However Neanderthal would not be human or animal. It would be a tool created by man for that sole purpose of making mans life easier. If man creates a tool, then that tool belongs to man. I think i would be great to be able to patent clones. One more thing please spell correctly, at least about the topic. salves com'n. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted May 20, 2006 #19 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I don't have the extact link to were it says it was cloned and lived a day, but if you type in google spider found in amber cloned you should find it in there. Or at least there plans to clone it i tried finding it but i was told by a friend about it and researched it a bit and found a site with it on.... I'm not lying before anyone says I found a link about the 20 MYO spider found in amber... it HASN'T been cloned... LINK-> Prehistoric spider find sparks 'Jurassic Park' hopes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8272 Posted May 20, 2006 #20 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well i heard they had but well off that link then thats fine no need to argue over it. Secondly over the topic of whether it would be right or wrong to use Neanderthal as slaves i still would disagree human or not they have a right to a life. If we created them we would only be playing God and would be creating a lesser race for our own good would we be any different to Starlin or Hitler who tried to create a underclass to serve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted May 20, 2006 #21 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well i heard they had but well off that link then thats fine no need to argue over it. maybe you were thinking of the cloned goats with spider genes... LINK-> GM goat spins web based future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8272 Posted May 20, 2006 #22 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Might of been, but a sheep weaving spider webs would be great. And useful since its so strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pax Unum Posted May 20, 2006 #23 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Might of been, but a sheep weaving spider webs would be great. And useful since its so strong yeah, untill spiders the size of goats start turning up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike8272 Posted May 20, 2006 #24 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well it would be pretty funny seing a spider that big in your garage or back garden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickasaBrick Posted May 21, 2006 #25 Share Posted May 21, 2006 (edited) They would be tools you moron. If it is created by humans it is a tool. Do cars have rights? NO! Do hammers have rights? NO!! Next thing you know you will be giving rights to penguins!! Edited May 21, 2006 by jgorman628 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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