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Richard Dawkins on persuasion
The evolutionary biologist talks about learning how to persuade those who disagree with him.
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#23 Posted by
on 31 December, 2017, 17:02
In all seriousness, while Professor Dawkins is the cat's pyjamas in explaining evolutionary biology, I don't think he is remarkably "persuasive," if by that you mean "somebody who disagrees with him changes their mind as a result of encountering his advocacy." It seems to me those who disagree with him tend to continue disagreeing with him. I suppose it is some accomplishment that those who agree with him usually continue to do so. While I appreciate Manfred's point, I do think it's OK to try to persuade (say) anti-vaccination parents to vaccinate their children. If somebody were serious about...
#24 Posted by
on 31 December, 2017, 17:18
He probably knows he won't convince the person he's debating. He's going for other people who might listen, and the debate gives him a platform. And he doesn't have to convince people to be atheists. I don't think that's really his goal. He might sow enough doubt so that they don't fall down the fundamentalist/Young Earth Creationist trap.
#25 Posted by
on 31 December, 2017, 21:42
I seriously doubt there's any help possible for those ... its one of those either or conditions ... if they are, no Dawkies will be able to help any of them ... ~
#26 Posted by
on 1 January, 2018, 15:24
People do walk away from fundamentalism. It's amazing to me that this happens, but it does. It's a possibility. Or they might not go down that path because of something they hear.
#27 Posted by
Manfred von Dreidecker
on 1 January, 2018, 16:08
Yes, if he wishes to persuade believers in creationism, which is all well and good (if the beliefs of such people are harmful) but he always wants to spread his crusade to convert all unbelievers to the true faith of atheism.
#28 Posted by
on 1 January, 2018, 16:11
How do you know? I've heard him say good things about Christianity. Even that it may be a defense against other types of fundamentalism that are currently more dangerous.
#29 Posted by
on 1 January, 2018, 16:13
I've even seen him go to bat for Christians about different things. Remember when they wanted to show the Lord's Prayer at cinema? He spoke out in favor their right to do that.
#30 Posted by
on 1 January, 2018, 17:03
Chaos As well he should, since the same arguments that were raised against the Lord's Prayer movie-theater ad were raised against his own "bus placard" campaign a few years' back. Indeed, in some places, it was the existence of paid pro-religious advertising that put pressure on the various media to accept the anti-religious advertisements. Clearly, advocating tolerance of religious subject matter in advertising furthers his ability to promote his own message. BTW, for those just tuning in, here's the religious ad we're talking about:
#31 Posted by
on 2 January, 2018, 0:17
Yes, the possibility is of course there, more probable though is that conditions such as mentioned normally gets more entrenched by manner of arguments and debates. If one ever walks away from such fundamentalism it won't be due to logic or facts presented to them. What they do hear though and what is heard is an entirely whole different chapter of great speculations. ~
#32 Posted by
on 14 January, 2018, 21:34
Meh, he may know a lot of facts... but he’s not very good at persuasion. "Once you realize that everyone is completely irrational,your life gets a lot easier.” - Scott Adams
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