Astronomers find 90% more universe

Unless you're also willing to grant that the light which would have had to travel billions of years to reach us somehow instantly reached us at the moment of observation--something which could lend incredible support to the Young Earth Creationists ideas--then you have to grant that the objects which radiated the light which traveled billions of years to reach our vicinity have had to be in existence all of those billions of years in order for their radiation to reach us. Either you support a Young Earth/Universe theory or you grant that IN FACT the newly observed objects were there all along,... [More]

The only fact we know about the size of the universe is the fact that we do not know because the results are always subject to change; and if facts don't change, then science in this case is based on circumstantial evidence, not fact. Science should not claim absolute truth, it is a QUEST for the truth. As such understanding is always subject to change when more evidence becomes available. This is not science's weakness, it is its strength. It does not claim to know everything and then stick it's head in the sand when the reality does not match it's beliefs, it alters it's beliefs to fit reali... [More]

Don't they assume dark matter/dark energy exist because there wasn't enough mass in the universe to hold it together? i guess they were right they found the dark matter, lol.

On the subject of dark matter.. this discovery alters nothing on that front. Dark matter is currently needed to explain the way galaxies revolve and so it seems to exist with in each individual galaxy. This new discovery does not do away with the need for dark matter, the percentage dark matter to baryonic matter that theory requires will remain the same. Until the day we are able to observe dark matter and make a guess as to what it really is. I imagine, what we need is a gravity camera so we can observe dark matter and see what doors are opened next.

I agree. The point I was trying to make about this case is: The only fact we know about the size of the universe is the fact that we do not know because the results change, increasing in this case; and if facts don't change, then science in this case is based on circumstantial evidence, not fact. It is circumstance because we keep changing our results based on the circumstance of our limits of observation (new ways to measure). The only limit the universe appears to have is the limit of our ability to observe it. Since our ability to understand is driven by our ability to observe, then observa... [More]

On the subject of dark matter.. this discovery alters nothing on that front. Dark matter is currently needed to explain the way galaxies revolve and so it seems to exist with in each individual galaxy. This new discovery does not do away with the need for dark matter, the percentage dark matter to baryonic matter that theory requires will remain the same. I guess this changes the cosmological constant that accounts for 72.4% of the energy in the universe. It should also impact the amount of dark matter that accounts for 23% of the matter in the universe since what we see accounted for 4.6% bef... [More]

So much for constants!

Wait a second, they just figured this out? I thought this has been common knowledge for a while within the scientific community. Not dark matter/dark energy, mind you, but the fact that the vast majority of the universe is (and forever will be) unknown to us because the light that comes to us is billions of years old and any events that are happening now we will never know about.

I would imagine there is more beyond this recent discovery. But just being able to put an estimate humbles me more than I even knew was possible!

"Astronomers find 90% more Universe" as if science knows for a fact how big it is already...lol....and if they found 90% more...then their original thought was incorrect and claiming they found 90% more would be incorrect too because they truly don't know how big it was originally.