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The apes you are talking about did not live in cold northern climates. Sure they lived in Europe but the continents where in different positions back then, and most land masses where covered with tropical and subtropical forests and savannas. They died out when Europe started cooling down. I'd have to disagree that the continents were in any different positions even 20 million years ago. most everything was in the same place it is now, within a couple hundred kilometers. http://jan.ucc.nau.edu/~rcb7/Mio.jpg I do thank you for the other quotes. I did not know all of that. I did find this... We ... [More]

I don't know how I can make it any clearer that Europe, Eurasia, and South East Asia were DID NOT have temperate climates back then. http://www.sociologyguide.com/introduction-to-sociology/human-evolution.php During the Miocene epoch the family Hominoidea diverged into two sub-families the Pongidae (apes) and the Hominidae(humans).The exact point of divergence between the ape line and the human line is debatable. In general Dryopithecus is considered to be ancestor of both apes and humans. Dryopithecus: This genus lived in Africa,China,India and Europe. The genetic title dryopithecus means oak... [More]

I don't know how I can make it any clearer that Europe, Eurasia, and South East Asia were DID NOT have temperate climates back then. You make a good arguement for Europe being Sub-tropical. And though some of these ape fossils were found in northern-ish Europe, I'd guess that it would have still been pretty warm and the apes could have lived in the lowlands that had as much snow and ice as Sumatra. A couple of hundred kilometers, expanding ice caps, shrinking oceans, and a few new mountain ranges can make all the difference in the world. That appears to be true. I disagree and everything the e... [More]

Yet they are adaptations. Adaptations to cold. I might argue I never said that there were lots of apes that lived on glaciers and ate ice, only that there were lots of apes adapted to cold(er) climates. Unless Todd C. Rae is right, if that is the case, it would seem we made our own adaptions (Shelter Clothing Heating) ourselves. Considering the physiology of peoples from warmer climates, I think he has a point here.

Unless Todd C. Rae is right, if that is the case, it would seem we made our own adaptions (Shelter Clothing Heating) ourselves. Considering the physiology of peoples from warmer climates, I think he has a point here. That could very well be true.

Unless Todd C. Rae is right, if that is the case, it would seem we made our own adaptions (Shelter Clothing Heating) ourselves. Considering the physiology of peoples from warmer climates, I think he has a point here. No doubt in my mind this is the case; http://www.episodes.co.in/www/backissues/312/207-210.pdf 6) Late glacial expansion of human populations: colonisation and re-colonisation Studies of a substantial part of the Eurasian late Palaeolithic after the last glacial maximum (ca. 21–15 ka) are primarily about the re-colonisation of areas previously too cold and/or ice-bound to inhabi... [More]

Yet it did say northern Europe was in the 16C range (60F), which is 7C (16F) more then the mean average in Germany today. I served 2 years in the Army in Germany, so I know the winters there. That 16C probably counts as sub-tropical, yet also we need to consider that the further north you go the more dramatic the seasons. These apes did see Winter. So I'd still guess that these European apes were living on the edge of what they could stand. The farthest Northern Miocene ape fossil I could find referenced was around Paris. Not even close to Northern Europe. Do you have references to some more N... [More]

No doubt in my mind this is the case; The above paper is a very interesting and informative read. H. Erectus lived in climates ranging from temperate to tropical so he couldn't have been specifically cold adapted or he would have only lived in the temperate zones. Also note not even H. Erectus, (the cold adapted ape that some believe could survive freezing winters naked and without fire or shelter) lived in Northern Europe. Indeed, and I am thoroughly convinced that you are right. Excellent links, thank for posting them. I was running with the older adage of Neanderthal evolving traits like a ... [More]

The conference and expedition is excellent news for cryptozoology, and politically as well, for that matter. There is a wealth of serious evidence around for the existence of undiscovered hominids in the Russian Federation and central Asia: much of this is not available to a Westerner owing to translation problems, and ongoing cultural issues. However, the best serious introduction to the subject that I know of is from Myra Shackley, a Doctor in Archeology who travelled to Outer Mongolia to do research on this. As I understand it she concluded that there were AT LEAST two phenomena: (1)Man-lik... [More]

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