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Gunung Padang: 'world's oldest pyramid' dates back up to 27,000 years

By T.K. Randall
November 4, 2023 · Comment icon 32 comments
Gunung Padang in Indonesia.
Could this site date back 27,000 years ? Image Credit: CC BY-SA 4.0 RaiyaniM
This enigmatic archaeological site in Indonesia has the potential to be the oldest monolithic structure on Earth.
Situated in West Java, Indonesia, Gunung Padang has long remained one of the most mysterious and hotly debated sites in archaeology.

Located 885 meters above sea level, the site, which covers an extinct volcano, consists of a series of steps and terraces and is home to thousands of hexagonal stone columns that are strewn everywhere.

For years, scientists have struggled to agree on exactly how old the site is, but now new radiocarbon dating tests have revealed that the oldest parts of the structure date back at least 16,000 years and could even date back as far as 27,000 years.

Construction was abandoned around 14,000 BC before beginning again between 7900 to 6100 BC.
The most recent part of the structure was completed sometime between 2000 and 1100 BC.

If Gunung Padang really is over 16,000 years old, then it predates the Egyptian pyramids, Stonehenge and even Turkey's Gobekli Tepe - a site that had already shaken up our understanding of what our ancestors were capable of around 11,000 years ago.

Beyond that, if construction of the site dates back 27,000 years, then it completely rewrites the history books and opens up big questions about our history.

Researcher Graham Hancock, who covered Gunung Padang in his Netflix series Ancient Apocalypse, has long suggested that the site was built by a civilization long lost to time.

If these new findings are to be believed, he may have been on to something all along.

Source: BBC News | Comments (32)




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Comment icon #23 Posted by Hammerclaw 6 months ago
Ambassador Molari, is that you?
Comment icon #24 Posted by Piney 6 months ago
Don't insult Londo. He warned the humans about ****ing with the Minbari, did a excellent job of getting rid of the Shadows on his planet and made a good ruler. I liked how he took care of Morden too.    
Comment icon #25 Posted by Windowpane 6 months ago
Your point about "no peer review" isn't really altogether true, Hammerclaw. This paper:  Geo-archaeological prospecting of Gunung Padang buried prehistoric pyramid in West Java, Indonesia - Danny Hilman Natawidjaja et al. (which I suspect is what inspired the story in the UM Archaeology & History News) is about to be published in Archaeological Prospection, a Wiley Online Library journal that is subject to peer review. However, Jason Colavito (Newsletter - Vol. 23, Issue 19, November 5, 2023) points out that: Readers with long memories might recall that, back in 2011, Semir Osmanagic's ... [More]
Comment icon #26 Posted by Abramelin 6 months ago
Yes. I even remember part of the username of the one who started a thread about it on UM: Nusantara something. Considering the name, s/he was from Indonesia.
Comment icon #27 Posted by Hammerclaw 6 months ago
About to be published isn't published. So, I was correct. It's been about to be published for twelve years. 
Comment icon #28 Posted by Windowpane 6 months ago
(Well: yes: but your point was not whether it was "published," as such, but whether it was subject to "peer review" ... ) Two more articles, with an analysis of Hilman's methodology: Gunung Padang: What Archaeology Really Says. August 28, 2023 Carl Feagans. There is no new evidence that Gunung Padang is a 24000 year old pyramid (André Costopoulos, archeologist, McGill University) - November 8, 2023   
Comment icon #29 Posted by fred_mc 6 months ago
Yes, I'm sure you know better than all archaelogists, scholars and text books in the world ? .
Comment icon #30 Posted by Windowpane 1 month ago
  THIS ARTICLE HAS BEEN RETRACTED   Open Access Retraction: Geo-Archaeological prospecting of Gunung Padang buried prehistoric pyramid in West Java, Indonesia First Published online: March 18, 2024 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/arp.1912#
Comment icon #31 Posted by DieChecker 1 month ago
What???? You dont say!!! Whod have suspected..... 
Comment icon #32 Posted by Windowpane 1 month ago
More reaction:   The retraction, based on a monthslong investigation, said that the study was flawed because its soil samples “were not associated with any artifacts or features that could be reliably interpreted as anthropogenic or ‘man-made.’”  ... One prominent supporter of Mr. Natawidjaja’s research, the journalist Graham Hancock, said in a statement he did not see the retraction as “fair, justified or good science.” He said that instead of issuing a retraction, the journal should have published critiques of the paper, a move he said would have allowed readers to make up t... [More]


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