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Astronomer: first aliens we encounter may be on the verge of collapse

By T.K. Randall
December 22, 2025 · Comment icon 45 comments
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One scientist has put forward the idea that any alien civilizations we encounter may be nearing their own end.
When we consider the possibilities of contact with an advanced extraterrestrial civilization, we tend to imagine an ancient, super-advanced and enlightened race that can teach us much about the cosmos.

According to Columbia University's Dr David Kipping, however, what's more likely is that the civilization we encounter is itself on the verge of total and catastrophic collapse.

This scenario is known as the Eschatian Hypothesis.

"Hollywood has preconditioned us to expect one of two types of alien contact, either a hostile invasion force or a benevolent species bestowing wisdom to humanity," said Dr Kipping.

"But the Eschatian hypothesis is neither."

"Here, first contact is with a civilization in its death throes, one that is violently flailing before the end."
In a new paper, Dr Kipping maintains that there is a similarity between finding aliens and making other astronomical discoveries.

If you look up at the night sky, for example, around one-third of the stars you see are in their death throes - thus making them larger and brighter than most of the others.

The same thing is likely to be true for alien civilizations, he argues.

"So, by extension, we should expect that the first detection of an alien civilization to be someone who is being unusually loud," he said.

"Their behavior will probably be atypical, but their enormous volume makes them the most likely candidate for discovery."

Of course, the chilling thought occurs - could we be one such civilization ?

Only time will tell.

Source: Mail Online | Comments (45)




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Comment icon #36 Posted by Earl.Of.Trumps 4 months ago
I kinda' lean more towards @Abramelin's view than yours, actually, Piney.  Remember, now, Einstein/Rosen first brought up the subject matter of wormholes a long time ago.  And we are certainly not limited to that technology, either. It may be a tech that has yet to be discovered. who knows.   
Comment icon #37 Posted by Hazzard 4 months ago
Technology??? Someone has been watching too much science fiction. ? Einstein and Rosens wormhole was a solution to the equations of general relativity, not a physical object. It was purely theoretical... a mathematical concept, not a physical structure or a technology we could use for travel.  
Comment icon #38 Posted by Antigonos 4 months ago
I don’t think so either unfortunately. But there are untold and countless things we can learn from the planetary bodies and their moons. We haven’t even begun to scratch the surface in that regard.  With the immense amount of time that will take,  we’ll probably use up whatever time Humankind has left doing it. It will take manned expeditions to Mars alone centuries to completely map the terrain and put together the climatological and geological make up and history of the planet. So we never get answers to the biggest mysteries, but maybe we solve some or all of the ones closest to hom... [More]
Comment icon #39 Posted by Hazzard 4 months ago
I think that the last part is quietly profound rather than sad. Leaving records, probes, artifacts, or signals that say an intelligent species was here is exactly what science already does. It does not require cosmic conquest to have meaning. Knowledge preserved is still legacy.
Comment icon #40 Posted by Antigonos 4 months ago
I absolutely agree. 
Comment icon #41 Posted by Trelane 4 months ago
An alternative would require an energy source to generate heat.  Any sort of alternative would lead to evidence of it.  This notion of "fire and forget" types of technology are science fiction. period.
Comment icon #42 Posted by Abramelin 4 months ago
You're suggesting we already know what there is to know?  
Comment icon #43 Posted by Hazzard 4 months ago
No one is saying that at all. What Im saying is that energy does not appear from nowhere and it does not disappear without effects. Heat, momentum, radiation, waste products, or interaction with matter are unavoidable. That is not a gap in our knowledge, it is how conservation laws work. Saying we might not know everything does not rescue the idea of invisible, consequence free technology. A so called fire and forget system that operates without energy input, without waste, and without interaction is not unknown science, it is magic.  Whatever the mechanism is, if it does something real in th... [More]
Comment icon #44 Posted by Earl.Of.Trumps 4 months ago
This is a good debate point, one that could last for a long tome in here. It might be the first time that believers and skeptics see something eye-to-eye.   
Comment icon #45 Posted by Trelane 4 months ago
No you're assuming that.  I'm stating from a logical standpoint this would be the case.


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