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Is there a third state of consciousness ?


Posted on Monday, 23 September, 2013 | Comment icon 20 comments

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The results of a recent study have revealed that a strange new state of human consciousness may exist.
Dubbed 'dysanaesthesia', this potential third state of consciousness would lie somewhere between being awake and sleeping, an intermediary state in which the individual is able to respond to a command but is unable to feel pain.

The findings stem from the results of a recent study involving 34 patients who were anesthetized with their entire body paralyzed except for one arm. Remarkably, it was found that up a third of patients were observed moving their finger when commanded to do so despite being seemingly unconscious.

"What's more remarkable is that they only move their fingers if they are asked," said Dr. Jaideep Pandit who discussed the research at the Annual Congress of the Association of Anaesthetists. "None of the patients spontaneously responded to the surgery. They are presumably not in pain."

The find is particularly significant because it raises questions about patient awareness during surgical procedures. Surveys have shown that around 1 in 500 patients recall some degree of awareness during surgery and it is thought that an intermediary level of consciousness could potentially help to explain this.

"We don't have a model for consciousness," said Pandit. "It is very difficult to design a monitor, to monitor something you don't have a model for."

Source: Live Science | Comments (20)

Tags: Consciousness

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Comment icon #11 Posted by Lava_Lady on 23 September, 2013, 22:11
Is this really a "new" state? I believe people have experienced states like this throughout history. It hardly seems like a new state was discovered. Especially if drug induced.
Comment icon #12 Posted by Audonia on 24 September, 2013, 4:53
First of all, I cannot believe they are just now acknowledging it's existence!! What's up guys, really??? I will agree that there are many states of consciousness, and yes, some are more easily accessed when drug induced, but this particular "state of consciousness" has been around since mankind first went to sleep. We do this every night. However most of us slip through it so fast that we never notice it. It is also the "state of consciousness" where we may (if you believe it), contact/connect with other beings and still be aware, we may Astral Travel, accidently or on purpose. I have had tro... [More]
Comment icon #13 Posted by AlienDan on 24 September, 2013, 7:01
Isn't this exactly the same state that occurs during Sleep Paralysis? During Sleep Paralysis we are awake and yet still asleep, which causes dreams to mentally manifest in reality. The state between wakefulness and sleep called hypnagogia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia It's really cool to experiment with. Sleep paralyses is a little different, you're body is physically asleep while you mind is awake and conscious of your surroundings.
Comment icon #14 Posted by Imaginarynumber1 on 24 September, 2013, 20:20
Dubbed 'dysanaesthesia', this potential third state of consciousness would lie somewhere between being awake and sleeping, an intermediary state in which the individual is able to respond to a command but is unable to feel pain. So they discovered being drunk? I could have told them all about that....
Comment icon #15 Posted by kapow53 on 26 September, 2013, 0:00
I tried to find article interesting
Comment icon #16 Posted by freetoroam on 27 September, 2013, 21:14
Isn't this exactly the same state that occurs during Sleep Paralysis? During Sleep Paralysis we are awake and yet still asleep, which causes dreams to mentally manifest in reality. Not quite, this one is drug induced, they could have found similar results by a bit research into the flower power years, Voodoo in Haiti, and many other drug induced pastimes "experimented" by man. This is not rocket science, its not even science!
Comment icon #17 Posted by Lava_Lady on 27 September, 2013, 21:18
Not quite, this one is drug induced, they could have found similar results by a bit research into the flower power years, Voodoo in Haiti, and many other drug induced pastimes "experimented" by man. This is not rocket science, its not even science! Agreed. I think what this study did is basically give the stage a new name and claimed it's a new discovery.
Comment icon #18 Posted by Asadora on 27 September, 2013, 22:02
o0o0o0 Lucy in the Sky...with Diamonds...o0o0o Sorry, somehow that song got stuck in my head.
Comment icon #19 Posted by joz48 on 1 October, 2013, 18:35
lol this thread is funny for no other reason than it exists. There is no such thing as pain neurologically taking pain as we talk about it is no more than the effects of nerves or the brain......depending on where the response is initiated from this only occurs when we visually see hear or believe something has happened to the body where a strong correspondent reaction is required. Did the need hurt.......yes i felt it.....no you expected to feel it and in response your mind has been channeled in to an educated state or concern....the bigger the needle the more reaction etc.... This is why hyp... [More]
Comment icon #20 Posted by malago0 on 9 November, 2013, 21:43
It's nothing new. This knowledge has been around for years. Through hypnosis you can take a person through many different stages of consciousness. Drugs also produce a separate consciousness. We definetly have more than just Awake and Asleep. Drugs can be proven to induce a separate state of consciousness because the only reasons you dream is because your brain produces DMT while you sleep, therefore any type of drug use is a separate state of consciousness. So really we didn't discover a "third" state of consciousness. It's hard to determine what being conscious is in the first place.


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