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Author tackles historical evidence of Jesus

By T.K. Randall
April 11, 2012 · Comment icon 175 comments

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Historian Bart Ehrman counters the mythicist view of Jesus by compiling the evidence for his existence.
The mythicist viewpoint, that Jesus wasn't a real person but a mythical figure, is quite prevelant in many parts of the world. Many see the lack of archaeological evidence and the fact that the Gospels were written long after Jesus' death as compelling arguments. "It was a surprise to me to see how influential these mythicists are," said Ehrman. "These mythicists point out that there are Pagan gods who were said to die and rise again and so the idea is that Jesus was made up as a Jewish god who died and rose again."

In his new book "Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth" however Ehrman goes on to put forward his case for Jesus being not a mythical character but a living, breathing human being who walked the Earth 2000 years ago.[!gad]The mythicist viewpoint, that Jesus wasn't a real person but a mythical figure, is quite prevelant in many parts of the world. Many see the lack of archaeological evidence and the fact that the Gospels were written long after Jesus' death as compelling arguments. "It was a surprise to me to see how influential these mythicists are," said Ehrman. "These mythicists point out that there are Pagan gods who were said to die and rise again and so the idea is that Jesus was made up as a Jewish god who died and rose again."

In his new book "Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth" however Ehrman goes on to put forward his case for Jesus being not a mythical character but a living, breathing human being who walked the Earth 2000 years ago.
So, did Jesus really exist? With his new book, Did Jesus Exist? The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth, Bart Ehrman, historian and professor of religious studies at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, wanted to provide solid historical evidence for the existence of Jesus.


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Comment icon #166 Posted by Tiggs 12 years ago
Tiggs, my friend, Have you ever considered that you might be wrong? Literally - almost every time before I say or type anything. How about you? Ready to confess yet that in the sentence - "the evidence for its omission is so slight that it must be original" - the "it" can only refer to one thing - the word "again"? I'm guessing probably not. Because if you do, then you'd also have to confess that the prior part of that sentence "Although "again" is found both before and after "went up" in the manu evidence favoring it" shows that a word moving around in the text is generally held to be good ev... [More]
Comment icon #167 Posted by Jor-el 12 years ago
Literally - almost every time before I say or type anything. How about you? Ready to confess yet that in the sentence - "the evidence for its omission is so slight that it must be original" - the "it" can only refer to one thing - the word "again"? I'm guessing probably not. Because if you do, then you'd also have to confess that the prior part of that sentence "Although "again" is found both before and after "went up" in the manu evidence favoring it" shows that a word moving around in the text is generally held to be good evidence that the word may have been inserted. And that would destroy ... [More]
Comment icon #168 Posted by Tiggs 12 years ago
Oh I admit that we have insertions in the New Testament text, but I do not agree that we are dealing with one here. To me it is still a matter of sloppy copying. Some of those scribes included margin notes that were not part of the original text. It was everything but scientific. I'm amazed that we don't have even more versions of the text laying about. Marginal gloss's will never cause words to change position within the text. But even with all that, this has very little to no evidence for an insertion. Alot of supposition and suspicion, yes, but no evidence. We usually don't condemn the susp... [More]
Comment icon #169 Posted by Jor-el 12 years ago
Marginal gloss's will never cause words to change position within the text. As always - there's a difference between "no evidence" and "no evidence that Jor-el is willing to accept". I believe that the evidence for this being an insertion is generally as strong as the evidence for any early insertion can be, without written contemporary evidence of an outraged external witness saying "These lines were inserted!". You claim otherwise. I say black, you say white. Which is why, in general, these discussions are pointless and I'm calling this conversation to an end. I have better things to do with... [More]
Comment icon #170 Posted by Tiggs 12 years ago
I have to ask... and I'm not being in any way facetious here... Where and what is the evidence that allows them to date the Letter to 46 A.D.? The date is for the visit detailed in Galatians 2, rather than the date that the letter itself was written. The dating argument is as follows: The visit in Galatians 2 corresponds to the visit in Acts 11, where Paul and Barnabas stayed in Jerusalem for a year. The premonition of the coming great famine within Acts 11 is identified explicitly as being during Claudius' reign, placing it between 41 and 54 AD That great famine corresponds to the great famin... [More]
Comment icon #171 Posted by Jor-el 12 years ago
The date is for the visit detailed in Galatians 2, rather than the date that the letter itself was written. The dating argument is as follows: The visit in Galatians 2 corresponds to the visit in Acts 11, where Paul and Barnabas stayed in Jerusalem for a year. The premonition of the coming great famine within Acts 11 is identified explicitly as being during Claudius' reign, placing it between 41 and 54 AD That great famine corresponds to the great famine which overlapped the procuratorships of Cuspius Fadus and Tiberius Julius Alexander - which ran between 44-46 and 46-48 AD, reported by Josep... [More]
Comment icon #172 Posted by Tiggs 12 years ago
I'm thinking that something doesn't jive here. Colour me surprised.
Comment icon #173 Posted by Jor-el 12 years ago
Colour me surprised. Well I'll give you points for consistency and perserverence.
Comment icon #174 Posted by Tiggs 12 years ago
Well I'll give you points for consistency and perserverence. I've kind of given up, to be honest. I could point out that Acts 11 concerns a prophecy via the Holy Spirit of the upcoming famine, which occurred whilst Paul and Barnabas were in Jerusalem. Most people not called Jor-el would probably conclude that the prophecy event occurred prior to the actual famine itself. Due to it being a prophecy, and all. I could point out that if the famine crosses the rule of both procurators - then the one time that it must absolutely be in force is in the crossover year between the two of them - 46 AD. B... [More]
Comment icon #175 Posted by Jor-el 12 years ago
I've kind of given up, to be honest. I could point out that Acts 11 concerns a prophecy via the Holy Spirit of the upcoming famine, which occurred whilst Paul and Barnabas were in Jerusalem. Most people not called Jor-el would probably conclude that the prophecy event occurred prior to the actual famine itself. Due to it being a prophecy, and all. I could point out that if the famine crosses the rule of both procurators - then the one time that it must absolutely be in force is in the crossover year between the two of them - 46 AD. Basic geometry, and all. I could point out that if you combine... [More]


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