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Human carbon emissions could delay ice age

By T.K. Randall
January 10, 2012 · Comment icon

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Scientists believe the next big ice age could be delayed for years thanks to human carbon emissions.

Another ice age is expected within the next 1500 years however thanks to global warming it might not even happen at all. "It's an interesting philosophical discussion," said Cambridge University paleoclimatologist Luke Skinner. "Would we better off in a warm world rather than a glaciation? Probably we would." At a time when the concept of climate change has been receiving nothing but negative press could the idea of global warming actually be a blessing in disguise ?

Cambridge university scientists say that a new Ice Age is due to start within 1,500 years. But due to human carbon emissions, the lethal 'big freeze' could be put off.

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#50 Posted by 12 years ago

Soon 2005 was published in Geophysical Research Letters journal (GRU). you have quoted text from a different journal. My mistake - but the principle and intent of the Journal is exactly the same. They recieve many thousands of submissions and it is estimated that a subeditor has one day to assess and manage each letter submitted. This is not peer review in the general sense of the word. Br Cornelius

#51 Posted by Little Fish 12 years ago

My mistake - but the principle and intent of the Journal is exactly the same. They recieve many thousands of submissions and it is estimated that a subeditor has one day to assess and manage each letter submitted. This is not peer review in the general sense of the word. Br Cornelius you state Soon cooked his data - wrong you state you "know" he cooked his data - wrong you state it was not peer reviewed - wrong you state it was a letter response to the editor - wrong you state it was only reviewed by the editors - wrong you state the review process was 14 days with one cycle of review - wrong ... [More]

#52 Posted by BFB 12 years ago

thanks, the different TSI data sets seem to corroborate Soon et al, 2005. if you plot from 1900 for each dataset you'll see similar shapes for the TSI which match the shape for the arctic temperature, a rise in TSI from 1900, followed by a decline in the mid century followed by a rise. it is not very plausible that this correlation is coincidence. ????? I am getting no where near the same result as you. What data did you use? The only way i can get it to look similar to the Soon 2005 graph is by using the data from Hoyt(Which is obsolete) Soon hasn't cooked/manipulated any data, he has simply ... [More]

#53 Posted by BFB 12 years ago

????? I am getting no where near the same result as you. What data did you use? The only way i can get it to look similar to the Soon 2005 graph is by using the data from Hoyt(Which is obsolete) Soon hasn't cooked/manipulated any data, he has simply used incorrect (outdated) data. This is the major flaw in his paper. The best TSI reconstruction available would be Steinhilber et al and Viera et al, which in no way resemples the Hoyt TSI reconstruction(Used by Soon)

#54 Posted by Little Fish 12 years ago

????? I am getting no where near the same result as you. What data did you use? the data you provided in the Leif link you provided, Leif, Dora, Wang, etcselect the respective column in a spreadsheet after 1900 and click the plot button, they all show the same shape, rise in TSI from 1900 to mid century, falls then rises again, same as Hoyt.

#55 Posted by BFB 12 years ago

the data you provided in the Leif link you provided, Leif, Dora, Wang, etc select the respective column in a spreadsheet after 1900 and click the plot button, they all show the same shape, rise in TSI from 1900 to mid century, falls then rises again, same as Hoyt. When using Whang's (actually all of them except from the Hoyt and Lean data) data i get no* way near the same result. Could you please upload your graphs? Remember Hoyt and Lean based their calibrations on science which are no longer valid.

#56 Posted by Little Fish 12 years ago

leif C, dora D, wang E, lean F, krivova K, all 1900-2000 and hoyt from Soon 2005

#57 Posted by BFB 12 years ago

leif C, dora D, wang E, lean F, krivova K, all 1900-2000 and hoyt from Soon 2005 I see in no way that they resemble the Hoyt graph

#58 Posted by Little Fish 12 years ago

I see in no way that they resemble the Hoyt graph there is more resemblance between the graphs and Hoyt, than there is between the graphs and co2.if the question was, what seems to be most likely warming the arctic, would your answer be, co2 or TSI?

#59 Posted by BFB 12 years ago

there is more resemblance between the graphs and Hoyt, than there is between the graphs and co2. if the question was, what seems to be most likely warming the arctic, would your answer be, co2 or TSI? Clearing all the knowledge from my brain and only looking at the graphs, i would say TSI.

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