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Could we find 'Dyson Spheres' in space ?

By T.K. Randall
March 30, 2015 · Comment icon 112 comments

Is it possible to detect a Dyson Sphere from Earth ? Image Credit: CC BY 3.0 John Masterson, CSIRO
Could an alien civilization build a large spherical energy-harvesting structure around a distant star ?
The concept of a Dyson Sphere was originally proposed over 50 years ago by physicist Freeman Dyson who suggested the possibility that a sufficiently advanced extraterrestrial race may be able to surround a star with a huge spherical structure and then live on the inside of the sphere.

For a time there were actually efforts by astronomers to pick up the infrared heat signature of such a structure, but after years of failing to find anything the idea has more or less fallen out of favor.

Now however two physicists have put forward the notion that the reason we are unable to find these huge structures out in space is because they are likely a lot smaller than scientists had imagined.
It certainly makes sense, given the tremendous scope of constructing a sphere encompassing, for instance, the distance from the Earth to the sun. Instead, the physicists' argue, anyone attempting such a feat would be more likely to build it around a much smaller star such as a white dwarf.

The smaller the star however the weaker the infrared heat signature, meaning that even if this were true and these smaller Dyson Spheres do exist, we'd be unlikely to pick them up.

For now, at least, the existence of these incredible structures will continue to remain a mystery.

Source: Gizmodo | Comments (112)




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Comment icon #103 Posted by toast 10 years ago
I can't be bothered to find the post again, but @ the sci-fi comments: All science is science fiction until it becomes science fact through advances in understanding. Its all science fiction, even Dyson Spheres. Also science fiction: syntetic wormholes. How much energy would be required to create these and how much of it would be created and how much energy would be required to keep them active? Of course, a lot of technology and knowledge in various fields like astronomy/biotechnology/medical science that we have today was (a kind) of science fiction in the past. But this fact does not result... [More]
Comment icon #104 Posted by mayidieoneday 10 years ago
Of course, a lot of technology and knowledge in various fields like astronomy/biotechnology/medical science that we have today was (a kind) of science fiction in the past. But this fact does not result into a norm that all todays science fiction related thoughts will automatically become reality in future. No, but unless you can see into the future, it does make the sci-fi comments rather pointless.
Comment icon #105 Posted by toast 10 years ago
No, but unless you can see into the future, it does make the sci-fi comments rather pointless. No, it isnt a pointless argument at all. As per yr logic, all that science fiction from the past has become reality or will be. As we still have science fiction thoughts today that are still what they are, means science fiction, we cannot create a model by math that all science fiction thoughs will become reality in future without exception.
Comment icon #106 Posted by mayidieoneday 10 years ago
No, it isnt a pointless argument at all. As per yr logic, all that science fiction from the past has become reality or will be. As we still have science fiction thoughts today that are still what they are, means science fiction, we cannot create a model by math that all science fiction thoughs will become reality in future without exception. How many times will you repeat a point I already agreed with? I'm not retarded so I don't know who you're repeating it for.I said it's pointless to make sci-fi comments implying those things will ALWAYS be sci-fi, an assumption no different from the assump... [More]
Comment icon #107 Posted by toast 10 years ago
How many times will you repeat a point I already agreed with? I'm not retarded so I don't know who you're repeating it for.I said it's pointless to make sci-fi comments implying those things will ALWAYS be sci-fi, an assumption no different from the assumption they will become science. Unless you can see the future, you don't know either way, and it's slightly more pointless to claim something will "always and forever be impossible" than it is to claim it might be possible in the future. So I`ve missunderstood yr posts. Calm down.
Comment icon #108 Posted by badeskov 10 years ago
I think they already lit up one artificial star as an experiment? I might be wrong though. Let's not forget about the artificial tornadoes! (look it up) I wouldn't call it a star just yet - they have shown fusion with larger output energy than was put into igniting the fusion process here on Earth, but only for the briefest of moments. Still a long way to go, unfortunately. And no worries about the multiple posts, I think we have all been there.... Cheers, Badeskov
Comment icon #109 Posted by badeskov 10 years ago
You are not wrong Badeskov. It was indeed his original idea and it makes alot more engineering sense than the solid sphere idea. This way you can construct the solar collectors in zero gravity and thus made them much lighter. That way you probably don't have to dismantle all the planets in order to get enough building material ! Glad to see that I haven't quite lost it yet We are actually working on creating an artificial sun in order to harness energy. It's called fusion power and it is probably the long term solution to our energy needs. Unfortunately we have some way to go yet. http://en.wi... [More]
Comment icon #110 Posted by psyche101 10 years ago
So frightening it could be the basis of a H P Lovecraft novel. Great minds and all that. I deal with things like structural integrity a lot. My designs and work affects it in slabs and the like heavily. Assuming something like gravity control, detecting even small objects by their signature on the plane of space time should be relatively easy. That only leaves removing threats. And with a system that collects the output of a star, firing a laser of a stellar energy level shouldn't be too hard either. Anything smaller then Pluto would be turned into small fragments pretty quickly. There are sti... [More]
Comment icon #111 Posted by DONTEATUS 10 years ago
I like the way Diechecker thinks ! We really need to put man on mars ! Go-a-digging ! Tromp around into some lava tubes, find the liquid water. Its gotta be there ! Anyway If we never go Its really our loss ! Man was made to explore ! And Keep Looking Up. Now that all said. Was that just a load of nothing ? you know who you are that that was directed too !
Comment icon #112 Posted by DieChecker 10 years ago
There is another thread on a great rift of "missing" galaxies. Might that not be evidence of a super civilization having long ago captured all the stars in several galaxies? I know that would seem mind boggling, but I think enough time has passed that such a thing could have happened.


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