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Civilization on track for 'irreversible collapse'

By T.K. Randall
July 29, 2020 · Comment icon 59 comments

Things are not looking too promising for the future. Image Credit: Pixabay
Two theoretical physicists believe that there is a 90% chance that civilization will collapse within 40 years.
The troubling prediction comes courtesy of Dr Gerardo Aquino from the Alan Turing Institute in London and Professor Mauro Bologna from the University of Tarapaca, Chile who maintain that the key contributing factor is the ongoing destruction of the world's forests.

According to the study, within as little as two to four decades the level of deforestation will be such that Earth will no longer be able to sustain its ever-growing human population.

This is based on the estimate that all of the world's forests will disappear within 200 years.

"Clearly it is unrealistic to imagine that the human society would start to be affected by the deforestation only when the last tree would be cut down," the pair wrote.

Particularly damaging will be the impact of deforestation on some of the life-support systems we ourselves rely on for survival, such as oxygen production and water cycle regulation.
The disappearance of the forests will also have a devastating impact on countless animal species.

"It is highly unlikely to imagine the survival of many species, including ours, on Earth without [forests]," the authors wrote. "The progressive degradation of the environment due to deforestation would heavily affect human society and consequently the human collapse would start much earlier."

"Calculations show that, maintaining the actual rate of population growth and resource consumption, in particular forest consumption, we have a few decades left before an irreversible collapse of our civilization."

Let us hope that either the study is wrong, or steps are taken to halt deforestation before it is too late.

Source: Vice.com | Comments (59)




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Comment icon #50 Posted by and then 5 years ago
Pretty sure Thomas Malthus would agree with you.
Comment icon #51 Posted by and then 5 years ago
When one factors in that only 6% of deaths are exclusively caused by Covid, it makes it abundantly clear that this virus is being politicized and is being used to take freedoms.  Last I checked, college attendance is completely voluntary.  Will some students get terribly sick or even die?  Sure. I have no respect for those who would cancel living in fear of a virus that is NOT killing millions.  I thought when the original "flatten the curve" 15 days was over, we'd be seeing lots of deaths.  Especially in Africa and India.  This is politicized BS.
Comment icon #52 Posted by Peter B 5 years ago
And yet lots more people are dying this year than last year. If it's not related to COVID-19 what is it? And why are hospitals in heavily affected locations overwhelmed with people with breathing difficulties? https://theconversation.com/up-to-204-691-extra-deaths-in-the-us-so-far-in-this-pandemic-year-143139
Comment icon #53 Posted by DieChecker 5 years ago
So... Youre on about those extra 16,000 people who died? I thought i read that due to the covid pandemic many people who would otherwise get screened, or who skipped their yearly checkup, were dying, or getting very ill, because they were not seen this year. 
Comment icon #54 Posted by Peter B 5 years ago
No, I'm responding to AndThen's statement about only 6% of COVID-19 deaths being exclusively due to the virus meaning that the virus is being politicised. The issue is not 16,000 extra deaths. Read the article again. That number of 16,000 is the difference between the official number of COVIS-19 deaths and the number of excess deaths compared with the same period of time in previous years (in the USA that is). Put simply, a lot more people are dying this year than in previous years. The main candidate is COVID-19, which, even if it isn't directly and solely responsible for people dying, is at ... [More]
Comment icon #55 Posted by DieChecker 5 years ago
Ive read, and watched videos, of the claim that many, if not most of the Covid19 deaths were people who might have died otherwise. I think the proof as to if this is true, or not, will be the 2021 mortality numbers. If the US numbers decrease significantly, by say around the number of increased deaths this year, that will say that though Covid19 led directly to their deaths, they likely were on the way out anyway.  So I see some truth in both positions. What im not sure of, is that there is another mysterious illness hiding in the numbers. I dont think 16000 is enough to show that, alone by i... [More]
Comment icon #56 Posted by Essan 5 years ago
I am 100% certain that everyone who dies from Covid-19 would otherwise have died from something else ..... (And some might well have died this year, even)
Comment icon #57 Posted by Doug1029 5 years ago
The idea of paying people to raise more kids has been floated.  But which families will get that privillige could be an issue.   That's a problem for everybody.   If you use trends to make your predictions, you are practically guaranteed to be wrong.  The current trend, no matter what it is, nearly always changes. Besides, the ozone hole is an environmental success story.  The world's nations worked together to outlaw the cause.  And it worked.  We took the science and applied it.   The number of severe storms has been increasing over the last fifteen or so years.  When counting hurri... [More]
Comment icon #58 Posted by Doug1029 5 years ago
And Then:  When one factors in that only 6% of deaths are exclusively caused by Covid, it makes it abundantly clear that this virus is being politicized and is being used to take freedoms.  Last I checked, college attendance is completely voluntary.  Will some students get terribly sick or even die?  Sure. I have no respect for those who would cancel living in fear of a virus that is NOT killing millions.  I thought when the original "flatten the curve" 15 days was over, we'd be seeing lots of deaths.  Especially in Africa and India.  This is politicized BS.   Deaths that are exclusive... [More]
Comment icon #59 Posted by Doug1029 5 years ago
Week lwater:  Still working from home.  Covid-count continues to rise, but slowly.  I suspect they'll try to keep the university open for another couple of weeks, at least. No chronologies detrended since last week.  That project is on dead stop. Still working on the HP35s slopover program.  It now computes the intersection points between the plot and stand boundaries for a one-turning-point plot.  Expect to be starting the double meridian distance part this coming week.  That's the fun part.  It's going to be at least three more weeks before I get the paper done. Doug


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