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Former NASA agent speaks out on the UFO phenomenon

By T.K. Randall
June 17, 2025 · Comment icon 8 comments
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Joseph Gutheinz has heard his fair share of conspiracy theories and UFO reports over the last few decades.
As both a current criminal defense attorney and a retired senior special agent with NASA's Office of Inspector General, it is perhaps no surprise that the approach Gutheinz favors when it comes to stories of unidentified flying objects is science over speculation.

Speaking to Fox News Digital recently, the 69-year-old exhibited a more skeptical attitude toward the phenomenon, adding that those making 'out there' claims need to prove what they are saying.

"They've been claiming that there have been UFOs since the 1940s," he said.

"And, you know, Area 51 supposedly houses UFOs. Have someone go in, look at Area 51."

"What I used to tell my students was the possibility of anybody coming from another world to visit us was beyond unlikely and what I would tell the people that would call me up with these tales about being visited by aliens, see a psychiatrist."
Gutheinz maintains that the vastness of space makes a visit from aliens highly unlikely.

"There are up to 400 billion stars in the Milky Way," he said. "There are maybe one to two trillion galaxies in the universe. But the reality is this, the closest solar system is Alpha Centauri."

"The bottom line is that it's 4.4 light years away, or 25 trillion miles away. And if somebody started flying to Proxima and Satori, or the other way around, it would take them over 70,000 years to get there, Nobody is visiting us from another world, likely."

As for UFOs, Gutheinz suggests that genuine objects spotted in the sky are probably man-made.

"If you're seeing something up there, and it's real, it's coming from the Chinese or the Russians or your next-door neighbor flying around with their drone," he said.

Source: Fox News | Comments (8)




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Comment icon #1 Posted by Hazzard 11 months ago
Finally someone with a brain inside his skull.
Comment icon #2 Posted by Cho Jinn 11 months ago
"And if somebody started flying to Proxima and Satori, or the other way around, it would take them over 70,000 years to get there, Nobody is visiting us from another world, likely." 1) Some alien dude hopped into his spaceship 70,000 years ago (speed? or are we just dispensing with the tapping of performing calculations?), and just now got here? 2) All aliens must come from solar systems? 3) All aliens must come from solar systems other that ours? 4) All aliens cannot have travelled here prior to recent history? 5) All aliens live to be ~80 earth years old, and none generational spacecraft? I ... [More]
Comment icon #3 Posted by Hazzard 11 months ago
  Did you miss the part at the beginning where it said - the approach Gutheinz favors when it comes to stories of unidentified flying objects is science over speculation?
Comment icon #4 Posted by esoteric_toad 11 months ago
It is interesting that believers will pile onto a claim made by and ex-"insert official sounding profession name here" when they go on about the government is hiding this or that but when they say the opposite it's "THEY ARE MISINFORMATION AGENTS!!!".  
Comment icon #5 Posted by Hazzard 11 months ago
      
Comment icon #6 Posted by Cho Jinn 11 months ago
“Science” is categorically not forming a conclusion and then adopting assumptions to then arrive at said conclusion.  Merely making basic observations (e.g., proxima centarui is four-ish light years away) doesn’t then permit one to engage in sweeping conclusion-based non-sequiturs.  The guy could have maintained some logical integrity by saying “I have not seen sufficient evidence to conclude XYZ…” for somebody who used to work for NASA, his statement are surprisingly myopic and, somewhat, juvenile. Then again, he’s an apparent lifer with the OIG, and isn’t exactly doing tech... [More]
Comment icon #7 Posted by sanchez710 11 months ago
Apologies if I'm wrong but it wouldn't take 70,000 years to travel 4.4 light years away if you were travelling at the speed of light. It would take 4.4 years. Who is to say that intelligent civilisations haven't discovered light speed travel? I tend to agree with him that most UAPs are explainable and it is unlikely that we have been visited by aliens. 'Unlikely' doesn't mean impossible. Just because we haven't discovered light speed travel yet doesn't mean it's impossible. I have an open mind on the possibility of these things. It's obvious that he doesn't. 
Comment icon #8 Posted by Hazzard 11 months ago
The laws of physics says so. Nothing with mass can travel at the speed of light. It doesnt matter where you are in the galaxy, they are still the same for everyone. If we are to speculate in science fiction then why not interstellar teleportation, or quantum jump? Or maybe the aliens can use the force and slipstream themselves over here?    


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