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Was Jesus really crucified in a 'T' shape ?


Posted on Monday, 7 April, 2014 | Comment icon 154 comments

Is the traditional depiction accurate ? Image Credit: CC BY-SA 3.0 Frydolin
A new study has suggested that the traditional depiction of Jesus on the cross could be wrong.
Scientists in Liverpool have based their findings on the controversial Turin Shroud, the ancient burial cloth of Jesus himself that is said to bear his image.

The stained outline appears to show a man with blood streaming down his arms in a way that, according to researchers, shouldn't be possible if Jesus was crucified in the traditional 'T' shape depicted in Christian art.

Instead, they argue, in order for the blood to have flowed in such a manner Jesus would have had to be crucified in a 'Y' shape with his hands above his head.

This alternative position would have not only been more painful but could have also caused breathing difficulties, resulting in death from asphyxiation.

Given the dubious origins of the shroud itself however these findings have been met with a considerable degree of skepticism.

Source: Christian Post | Comments (154)

Tags: Jesus, Cross


 
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Comment icon #145 Posted by DieChecker on 20 April, 2014, 21:40
Atheists are immoral, and miserable? Interesting. Miserable? How could an Atheist be miserable? They do what they want within the law, so they should actually be happier then Christians. Immoral? Yes, possibly they are more immoral. Your ethnic atheist lady is only handing out one side of the story, which is always dangerous. How to remain Christian. Huh? I already practice those. Anyone that reads this entire thread will see that about me.
Comment icon #146 Posted by DieChecker on 20 April, 2014, 21:47
I don't think the cross became the symbol for Christianity until after it became the official religion of the Roman empire. I would look there for it's roots However, the cross symbol was already associated with Christians in the 2nd century, as is indicated in the anti-Christian arguments cited in the Octavius[7] of Minucius Felix, chapters IX and XXIX, written at the end of that century or the beginning of the next,[8] and by the fact that by the early 3rd century the cross had become so closely associated with Christ that Clement of Alexandria, who died between 211 and 216, could without fe... [More]
Comment icon #147 Posted by spacecowboy342 on 20 April, 2014, 21:58
http://en.wikipedia....Christian_cross http://en.wikipedia....in_ancient_Rome Christians using Cross 200 AD. Romans adopt Christianity = 391 AD = Approximately 200 years later. I'm not sure that is exactly accurate but I don't have anything to show differently at hand. The way I understand is that even in the time of Constantine the cross wasn't in use, at least widely by Christians as a symbolhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi-Rho_(Labarum)
Comment icon #148 Posted by davros of skaro on 21 April, 2014, 1:05
Interesting. Miserable? How could an Atheist be miserable? They do what they want within the law, so they should actually be happier then Christians. Immoral? Yes, possibly they are more immoral. Your ethnic atheist lady is only handing out one side of the story, which is always dangerous. Huh? I already practice those. Anyone that reads this entire thread will see that about me. LOL! You animal...
Comment icon #149 Posted by CJ1983 on 24 April, 2014, 22:32
I've heard this theory a long time ago in church, I was under the impression it wasn't even a cross, but a straight pole. The nails didn't go through his hands either, they went through his wrists.
Comment icon #150 Posted by davros of skaro on 25 April, 2014, 3:48
I've heard this theory a long time ago in church, I was under the impression it wasn't even a cross, but a straight pole. The nails didn't go through his hands either, they went through his wrists. The wrists were considered to be part of the hands in those times.Studies on cadavers show that nails in the palm would rip apart the hand with some body weight added.
Comment icon #151 Posted by spacecowboy342 on 25 April, 2014, 4:07
The wrists were considered to be part of the hands in those times.Studies on cadavers show that nails in the palm would rip apart the hand with some body weight added. True but the arms could have been secured with ropes and the palms nailed just to add insult to injury
Comment icon #152 Posted by DieChecker on 25 April, 2014, 4:51
I've heard this theory a long time ago in church, I was under the impression it wasn't even a cross, but a straight pole. The nails didn't go through his hands either, they went through his wrists. I do agree with the wrists. That seems a more likely way that they did it. I'd not agree with the pole, since many other sources say that the Romans were pretty standardized in how they crucified people. I do agree that it is a possibility though.
Comment icon #153 Posted by Philangeli on 25 April, 2014, 8:33
I go for the cross theory. After all, the word, 'crucifixion', does mean fixed to a cross. Though, single wooden stakes were also used, the Romans tended to use crossbeams as well in their gory executions. Also, it is more probable that Jesus carried the cross beam up to Calvary and not the main stake, which would have been far too heavy for a man to carry (particularly in his already weakened condition). In some cases, the condemned was forced to carry the crossbeam on his shoulders to the place of execution. A whole cross would weigh well over 135 kilos (300 lb), but the crossbeam would not ... [More]
Comment icon #154 Posted by davros of skaro on 25 April, 2014, 9:37
True but the arms could have been secured with ropes and the palms nailed just to add insult to injury That's true, but straps were probably used regardless, so I would imagine. I see it like this;Slap your open palm, then just below that your wrist with a metal rod.See which hurts more.


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